Re: change of govt = change of practice

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On Dec 5, 2007 11:50 PM, Wray, Randall wrote:
> Bill: thanks. Yes I think the data are overwhelming for very serious problems, for deep recession, and for rate cuts.
the problems to the real economy aren’t showing up yet

  1. exports have been more than filling the housing gap- as long as foreigners continue the move to ‘spend their hoard’ of $US we can probably muddle through for quite a while.
  2. housing feels like it’s bottomed and won’t be subtracting from gdp. mtg rates are lower than in august and banks are pushing hard to loan directly without the securitization process and are keeping the (wider) spreads for themselves.
  3. none of the losses so far have been anything more than rearranging financial assets and have not resulted in business interruption in the real economy.
  4. unlike the 30’s, we are not on the gold standard. If we had been on it, instead of the run up in gold prices of recent years the same relative value changes would have instead been evidenced by a massive deflation (gold held constant), outflows of gold from the govt, and maybe higher rates to keep that from happening, eventual devaluation (1934), and more powerful motivation for trade wars- all like the 1930’s and other standard gold standard collapses. So comps with the 1930’s can be highly misleading. With today’s non convertible currency the ‘adjustments’ are very different and the financial stresses tend to be more removed from main street. Note the s and l crisis, the crash of 87, the 98 credit crisis had relatively minor effects on gdp. Loans create deposits unconstrained by the gold supply, and capital is likewise both endogenous and not constrained by gold. Instead, all is constrained by income, and govts are pretty good at sustaining that at least at modest levels during slowdown with countercyclical tax structures leading the way, and lots of ‘off balance sheet deficit spending’ leaking out all over the world. This includes massive state bank lending from China, to even the eurozone (though that may be catching up with them under current arrangements), and budget deficits around the world sufficient for the moment to keep things muddling through.

> there is a very large body of evidence to indicate this is the worst situation seen in the US since the 1930s. It is a good time for >pragmatism and for throwing out silly rules. Central bankers are doing what they can. Unfortunately, as we all know only too well, the importance of fiscal policy is not understood.

Right, while I would cut rates to 0, I would also offset the resulting fiscal drag but cutting social security taxes. Irony is current rate cuts in isolation tighten the fiscal balance.
(http://www.epicoalition.org/docs/Forstater_Mosler_article.pdf)

Also, I’m thinking a world wide cap on the $ price of imported crude and domestic gasoline prices might be a short term path to price stability and a long term path to using less of it as costs of production rise and it can’t be sold profitable.

Just in the beginning stage of this concept!

Meanwhile, I don’t think any slowdown will cut net demand for crude sufficiently to take away Saudi and Russian pricing power for at least the next 6 months. and if they simply spend their income here the higher prices won’t slow gdp, just hurt our real terms of trade and keep upward pressure on cpi which is starting to spill over to core, and which the Fed won’t ignore as it climbs past 4, 5 and 6%.

warren

>There isn’t too much reason to be optimistic. As they say, we live in
interesting times, that are making us long for boring. See you in
January.
>
> L. Randall Wray
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> From: Warren Mosler [mailto:warren.mosler@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wed 12/5/2007 8:13 PM
> To: Bill Mitchell
> Subject: Re: change of govt = change of practice
>
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> Hi Bill, good info, thanks very much!
>
> warren
>
> On Dec 5, 2007 3:48 PM, Bill Mitchell wrote:
> > dear warren
> >
> > history was made yesterday – the RBA published the minutes of their
> > meeting
> > on Tuesday where they spell out their reasoning on rates (no change).
> > This
> > is the first time they have done that and it follows the election
> > campaign where
> > Rudd made a big point of returning honesty and transparency to his govt
> > after
> > the bad howard years of lying and covering up anything that moved.
> >
> > So you can see the minutes tell you that a further rate rise is now not
> > inevitable
> > despite inflation being above the magic upper bound of 3 and despite
> > them expecting
> > it to remain that way for at least 6 months more.
> >
> > They are now saying that world trends are for lower interest rates to
> > cope with the
> > worsening credit crisis.
> >
> > So: (a) their strict Inflation Targetting is being violated by “other
> > concerns”
> > (b) they think the US is heading for recession.
> >
> > local commentators last night said the Fed will lower by 0.5 next week
> > after BOC went
> > down this week and BOE is heading that way too.
> >
> > anyway, today the CofFEE conference starts – 2 days.
> >
> > see you
> > bill


Saudis are Necessarily in Position of Price-Setter

Published November 16, 2007 in the Financial Times

From Mr Warren Mosler.

Sir, Adrian Binks’ letter “Oil price conspiracy theories get in the way of facts”(November 14) is precisely the response indicated in my letter (November 12); in this case from an energy information service. While Mr Binks’ statements are indeed factual, the institutional structure outlined, which the Saudis initiated, leaves more than sufficient room for the Saudis effectively to set prices and meet the demand at that price.

Note that their current production level of about 8.5m barrels per day is down about 2m bpd from just a few years ago. If they were simply producing based on capacity and selling the resulting output at “market” prices, their output would be higher and the price of crude much lower.

Furthermore, if they were not acting as swing producer, it would be far more difficult to organize general Opec production levels.

Regarding Russia, Mr Binks’ statement that “the Kremlin proposed that an oil exchange be established at St Petersburg to set the price of Russian oil, although this has not yet come into being”, is indicative that President Vladimir Putin is well aware that Russia is indeed a “price-setter”, and I suggest that it is an error to underestimate his progress in this direction.

To address Mr Binks’ conclusion: this is not a “conspiracy theory” and not precisely a “price-setting cartel”. It is, rather, a point of logic describing a case of “imperfect competition” where (at least in the short run) a given supplier’s output is sufficiently large and flexible, and demand sufficiently constant, that the supplier is necessarily in the position of “price-setter”.

Warren Mosler,
Chairman,
Valance & Co,
St Croix,
USVI 00820

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2007


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Oil Price Conspiracy Theories Get in the Way of Facts

Published November 14, 2007 in the Financial Times

From Mr Adrian Binks.

Sir, Warren Mosler (Letters, November 12), reveals the level of hysteria that affects even intelligent western economists when it comes to oil prices.

First, economists need to understand the facts. Saudi Arabian crude oil is sold at prices directly linked to market values. Sales to Asia are linked to the price of Oman and Dubai crude, with exports to Europe based on ICE Brent futures prices, and sales to the US ultimately linked to West Texas Intermediate crude price levels. The Saudis set monthly differentials to these benchmark market prices that reflect the different quality of their crude, taking into account their customers’ refinery configurations.

Mr Mosler is equally confused when he writes that President Vladimir Putin “seems to have gained control over pricing of Russian oil”. Most Russian crude oil is sold at market-related prices. In the case of the second largest private-sector Russian producer, TNK-BP, next year’s sales will be based on the average of market assessments by Argus and Platts, two international specialist reporting agencies.

The trend within Russia is to greater market-related pricing, not less. The Kremlin proposed that an oil exchange be established at St Petersburg to set the price of Russian oil, although this has not yet come into being.

Rather than producer price setting, the cause of the upsurge in oil prices is new demand in China and India, coupled with the inability of western oil companies to invest in new low-cost reserves because of state control of crude oil extraction in key exporters. This is nothing new. Saudi oil production has been closed to western oil companies since the 1970s.

What is new is the drive for cleaner-burning transport fuels that require massive investment by the oil industry in more sophisticated refining. At the same time, there is a huge increase in product demand in markets to which western companies have little access.

These are the facts that economists in western countries should be focused on, and not conspiracy theories about price-setting cartels.

Adrian Binks,
Chief Executive,
Argus Media,
London EC1V 4LW

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2007

Saudis Do Set World Oil Prices – Despite Bold Denials

Published November 12, 2007 in the Financial Times

From Mr Warren Mosler.

Sir, As crude oil prices continue to rise, the media continue to assume that competitive market forces are behind the increase, including political tensions, weather, supply disruptions and demand pressures. Completely overlooked, however, is the fact that the Saudis post their offered prices for the oil they sell to their refiners, and let the quantity they deliver vary with demand. It is a simple case of monopoly price-setting. The Saudis are acting as “swing producer” and setting the world price.

As a point of logic, the Saudis have no choice but to set the price of oil. At the margin, they are in fact the sole supplier of about 8.5m barrels of crude that the world currently needs from them every day. As all economics students are taught, any sole supplier is necessarily a “price-setter”.
Of course, the Saudis boldly deny that they set prices. However, they do say they do not sell in the spot markets, but that they do (publicly) post their desired prices to the refiners who buy their oil.

The Saudis will continue as price-setter until net world supply increases sufficiently to cause Saudi sales to fall and production to drop to unsustainably low levels. This is what happened in the early 1980s and persisted until the last several years when a decrease in net available world supply put the Saudis back in the driver’s seat.

Additionally, President Vladimir Putin seems to have gained control over pricing of Russian oil, making him a world “price-setter” as well. This means that either the Saudis or the Russians can raise prices at will, and the rest of the market automatically follows.

The bottom line is that the price of oil will rise to the higher of any price Russia or the Saudis desire, with no relief unless there is a drop in net world demand that reduces the demand for both Saudi and Russian output to unsustainably low levels.

Warren Mosler,
Chairman,
Valance,
St Croix, USVI 00820
(Senior Associate Fellow, Cambridge Centre for Economic and Public Policy, University of Cambridge, UK)

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2007

Re: U.S. $ and oil prices; the T-bill and the fed target rate

(email from Tom @ Laffer Investments)

> Looking at this chart of the 91-day T-bill…don’t think
> the Fed’s not going to cut rates on December 11th. We
> expect .50 bps and more cuts early next year…unless
> something changes.

The low t-bill rate is due to money funds switching asset choices away from any perception of risk, and moving the indifference levels between bills and fed funds, libor, etc. It’s part of what is being called ‘repricing of risk’ and has nothing to do with where the fed funds rate ‘ought to be’.

> Arthur and I were discussing Abu Dhabi’s investment in
> Citigroup. As you know, Arthur has been saying that
> the dollar can only fall so far until investors step
> in to buy U.S. denominated assets. When that starts
> in earnest, he says, the dollar will find a bottom.
> (See Laffer Associate’s ‘Whither the Dollar’). Abu
> Dhabi’s massive investment may signify that point. We
> would not be surprised to see a floor forming in the
> U.S. dollar as a result of factors such as the
> Citigroup investment.

Agreed! PPP is a powerful force, but often takes quite a while to assert itself.

Additionally, ‘fundamentals’ in favor to the $US also include the fact that the US budget deficit as a % of GDP is at a very low level, which tightens the ‘new’ supply of $US denominated net financial assets available.

Forces working against the $US recently recently are portfolio shifts due to concern over fed policy that has the appearance of ‘inflate your way our of debt’ and ‘beggar thy neighbor’ demand stealing ‘competitive devaluations/exports’.

Once the flood of portfolio shifts subsides, I agree the $US looks ok.

> Which leads us to oil prices. As you know, we look
> for the substitution effect in the supply of and
> demand for oil to create a ceiling on oil prices.
> That substitution effect is clearly underway. The
> wild-card has been the U.S. dollar. A weakening
> dollar has postponed the fall in oil prices, as you
> know.

The Saudis are acting as swing producer – posting price and letting quantity pumped adjust, thereby setting price at whatever level they want. So, the thing to watch is Saudi production. If it rises, that’s bullish for oil as it indicates more demand at the current prices. If Saudi production falls, it means net supply is increasing and the Saudis are able to sell less at current prices. They will hold price until the amount they are selling falls below 7 million BPS is my best guess.

Also, to compound matters, the Russians are doing the same thing; so, we have two swing producers, and the price goes to the higher of where the two post prices, as at the margin we need all of their current production of the day.

> We would not be surprised to see other investors step
> in to buy U.S. assets on the cheap much as Japan did
> in the early 90’s. You may remember the effect
> Japan’s buying had on the U.S. dollar then.

Yes, the $US shortage caused by tight US fiscal policy will turn the boat when the international portfolios run out of amo.

> A strengthening dollar and a slowing global economy
> could knock much of the froth out of oil prices.

Only if the Saudis/Russians decide to accept lower prices. Don’t underestimate them!!!

> Regarding OPEC: don’t think they aren’t aware of the
> fact that the U.S. economy is slowing.
>
> Maybe because so far it isn’t. Gasoline demand is still going up, though at a slower rate.
> Don’t think the heightened level of fear regarding a
> U.S. recession isn’t effecting their discourse heading
> into their December 5th meeting. We expect them to
> pump more oil. It doesn’t behoove them to be an
> accomplice in the murder of the U.S. economy.

They already pump all that’s demanded at their posted prices. You’re missing that dynamic in your analysis, and Art agrees with me.


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Review of Evans Speech

November 27, 2007

Financial Disruptions and the Role of Monetary Policy*

Skipped the first part. It’s very good history and analysis.

With regard to shocks to the financial system, our concern is about the ability of financial markets to carry out their core functions of efficiently allocating capital to its most productive uses and allocating risk to those market participants most willing to bear that risk. Well-functioning financial markets perform these tasks by discovering the valuations consistent with investors’ thinking about the fundamental risks and returns to various assets. A widespread shortfall in liquidity could cause assets to trade at prices that do not reflect their fundamental values,

The fed’s concern is very well stated here. It’s about availability of credit:

impairing the ability of the market mechanism to efficiently allocate capital and risk. And reduced availability of credit could reduce both business investment and the purchases of consumer durables and housing by creditworthy households.

We clearly must be vigilant about these risks to economic growth. However, overly accommodative liquidity provision could endanger price stability, which is the second component of the dual mandate. After all, inflation is a monetary phenomenon. Indeed, one of the many reasons for the Fed’s commitment to low and stable inflation is that inflation itself can destabilize financial markets. For example, in the late 1970s and early 1980s, high and variable inflation contributed to large fluctuations in both nominal and real interest rates.

The above articulates that the inflation risk is also a risk to markets, as well as growth and employment.

The Fed has kept these various risks to growth and inflation in mind when responding to the financial turmoil this year. Importantly, we have taken a number of monetary policy actions to insure against the risk of costly contagion from financial markets to the real economy. On August 10, in response to a sharp rise in the demand for liquidity, the Fed injected $38 billion in reserves via open market trading. In one sense, this was a routine action to inject sufficient reserves to maintain the target federal funds rate at 5-1/4 percent—the non-routine part was the size of the injection required to do so. (Indeed, this was the largest such injection since 9/11.)

Kohn fully understands monetary operations and would not/did not make a statement like this.

On August 16, with conditions having deteriorated further, the Federal Reserve Board, in consultation with the District Reserve Banks, moved to improve the functioning of money markets by cutting the discount rate by 50 basis points and extended the allowable term for discount window loans to 30 days. The Board also reiterated the Fed’s policy that high-quality ABCP is acceptable collateral for borrowing at the discount window. At its regular meeting on September 18, the FOMC cut the federal funds rate 50 basis points and then lowered it another 25 basis points at its meeting in October. Related actions by the Board of Governors lowered the discount rate to 5 percent. Finally, just yesterday the Open Market Desk at the New York Fed announced that it will conduct longer-term repurchase agreements extending into January 2008 with an eye toward meeting additional liquidity needs in money markets.

Again, note the contrast with Kohn’s discussion of the ramifications of the discount rate moves.

After the October moves, the FOMC press release noted: “Today’s action, combined with the policy action taken in September, should help forestall some of the adverse effects on the broader economy that might otherwise arise from the disruptions in financial markets and promote moderate growth over time.” The Committee also assessed that “the upside risks to inflation roughly balanced the downside risks to growth.” My reading of the data since then continues to support this risk assessment. As of today, I feel that the stance of monetary policy is consistent with achieving our dual mandate objectives and will help promote well-functioning financial markets.

Meaning that if the meeting were today, he wouldn’t recommend a cut.

Indeed, the FOMC minutes released on November 20 included new information on economic projections for 2007-10. The committee will release updated projections four times a year. Both the range and central tendencies of these projections envision growth returning to potential in 2009 and 2010, and inflation being within ranges that many members view as consistent with price stability.

Again, current stance appropriate given the forecasts and current conditions.

The Outlook Going Forward

Of course, there is still a good deal of uncertainty over how events will play out over time, and we are monitoring conditions closely for developments that may change our assessments of the risks to growth and inflation. A number of major financial intermediaries have recently announced substantial losses, and housing markets are still weak and will continue to struggle next year. Home sales and new construction fell sharply last quarter, and prices softened. The only data we have on home building for the current quarter are housing starts and permits: These came in well below average in October. But these weak data were not a surprise — our forecast is looking for another large decline in residential construction this quarter.

Again, the economy would have to be worse than the October 31 forecast to consider another cut, and that forecast has a decline built into it.

Outside of the financial sector and housing, the rest of the economy appears to have weathered the turmoil relatively well. The first estimate of real GDP growth in the third quarter was a quite solid 3.9 percent, and private market economists think the revised number that will be released on Thursday will be close to 5 percent. So the economy entered the fourth quarter with healthy momentum.

However, our forecast is for relatively soft GDP growth in the current quarter. Private sector forecasts seem to be in the 1 to 2 percent range. And, not surprisingly, we have seen some sluggish indicators consistent with this outlook.

The current private forecasts have been revised up if anything since October 31.

Our Chicago Fed National Activity Index suggested that growth in October was well below potential. As I just mentioned, the housing numbers point to another large drag from residential investment. Manufacturing output has fallen in two of the past three months. Consumption—by far the largest component of spending—grew at a solid rate in the third quarter, but in October, motor vehicle sales changed little and sales at other retailers also posted pretty flat numbers. Consumer sentiment also is down. But we have also received positive news. Forward-looking indicators point to further increases in business investment and continued strength in exports.

Seems to emphasize these last two as forward looking is more important than rearview mirror observations.

Importantly, the job market remains healthy—nonfarm payrolls increased 166,000 in October. Over the past four months, job growth has averaged about 115,000 per month, down from the 150,000 pace over the first half of the year, but still in line with demographic trends and an economy growing at potential.

As discussed in previous posts, the fed sees the labor force participation rate shrinking for demographic reasons. So, the unemployment rate staying low with fewer new jobs are expected and part of the forecast.

This is a key fundamental supporting the forecast because gains in employment lead to gains in income, which in turn support gains in consumer spending going forward.

Looking beyond the current quarter, our baseline forecast is for growth recovering as we move through next year.

Recovery beyond the current quarter. This shouldn’t change by the meeting.

In particular, we expect that later in 2008 economic growth will move lose to its current potential, which we at the Chicago Fed see as being slightly above 2-1/2 percent per year.

Their position is that the potential non inflationary growth is relatively low.

Now this pace for potential output growth is lower than during the 1995-2003 period. But it still includes a healthy trend in productivity growth relative to longer-term historical standards. Of course, productivity growth is a key factor supporting job growth, and with it income creation and increases in household expenditures; it also underlies the profitability of business spending. Solid demand for our exports should continue to be a plus for the economy. And we do not think residential investment will make as large of a negative contribution to overall growth as it did in 2006 and 2007.

And an early turn around could derail their hopes of any ‘slack’ in the labor markets.

There is still a good deal of uncertainty about this forecast. We can’t rule out the possibility of continued market difficulties. We can’t be sure how long it will take for financial intermediaries to complete the process of re-evaluating the risks in their portfolios. And many subprime adjustable rate mortgages will see their rates climb over the next few months—a process that could feed back on to housing and financial markets. But developments could surprise us on the
upside as well.

This risk also balanced.

The real economy has proven to be resilient to a host of serious shocks over the past twenty years. Indeed, think back to the concerns we had in 1998 about a fallout on the real economy from the financial crisis associated with the Russian default and LTCM. In fact, real GDP grew 4.7 percent in 1999, a pretty strong pace by any standard. With regard to inflation, the latest numbers have been encouraging. The 12-month change in core PCE prices remained at 1-3/4 percent in September. We do not have the PCE index for September yet, but the CPI data for October showed a moderate increase in core prices. Of course, higher food and energy prices have boosted the top-line inflation numbers, and the overall PCE prices have risen nearly 2-1/2 percent over the past year. At present, my outlook is for core PCE inflation to be in the range of 1-1/2 to 2 percent in 2008-09, and for total PCE inflation to come down and be roughly in line with the core rate. Relative to our outlook six months ago, this is a favorable development.

There are both upside and downside risks to this inflation forecast. With no appreciable slack in resource markets, cost pressures from higher unit labor costs, energy, or import prices could show through to the top-line inflation numbers. However, weaker economic activity would tend to offset these factors.

Balanced risks on inflation.

But they have to say that – their job is managing expectations.

Concluding remarks

Given the uncertainties about how financial conditions might evolve and affect the real economy, policy naturally tends to emphasize risk-management approaches. That is, the Fed must adjust the stance of policy to guard against the risk of events that may have low probability but, if they did occur, would present an especially notable threat to sustainable growth or price stability. Such risk management was an important consideration in the monetary policy reactions to the current financial situation that I talked about a few minutes ago. But while the risk is still present of notably weaker-than-expected overall economic activity, given the policy insurance we have put in place I don’t see this as likely.

Isn’t forecasting activity weaker than the October 31 forecast.

As always, our focus will continue to be to foster maximum sustainable growth while maintaining price stability.

And they all believe price stability is a necessary condition for optimal long term growth and employment.

1See Gilboa, I., and D. Schmeidler, 1989, “Maxmin Expected Utility
with non-unique Priors,” Journal of Mathematical Economics, 18,
141-153; Hansen, L., and T. Sargent, 2003, “Robust Control of
Forward-looking Models,” Journal of Monetary Economics 50(3), 581-604;
Caballero, R., and A. Krishnamurthy, 2005, “Financial System Risk and
Flight to Quality,” National Bureau of Economic Research.Working Paper
No. 11834.

2For a further discussion of these examples, see Caballero, and
Krishnamurthy, op. cit.

3See Gennotte, G. and H. Leland, 1990, “Market Liquidity, Hedging, and
Crashes,” American Economic Review, 80(5), 999-1021.

*The views presented here are my own, and not necessarily those of the
Federal Open Market Committee or the Federal Reserve System.


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