Naimi Says Saudi Arabia, Gulf States Seeking Stable Oil Prices

This reads a lot like the Saudis have about run out of excess capacity?

Naimi Says Saudi Arabia, Gulf States Seeking Stable Oil Prices

By Deema Almashabi and Glen Carey

October 9 (Bloomberg) — Saudi Arabia, the world’s biggest exporter of crude oil, will help meet demand “fully” and will work with other member states of the Gulf Cooperation Council to try to stabilize prices, Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi said.

“We will work towards moderating the price,” al-Naimi told reporters in Riyadh today ahead of a conference of oil ministers from the council’s six members. “We will meet the market demands fully.”

Crude for November delivery climbed as much as $1 to $90.33 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange and was at $89.93 at 5:09 a.m. local time. Brent oil for November settlement gained 81 cents, or 0.7 percent, to $112.63 a barrel on the London-based ICE Futures Europe exchange.

Saudi Arabia is the largest nation in the GCC, a political and economic confederation that includes Kuwait, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. The four states belong also to the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. The GCC’s other members are Bahrain and Oman. Together, the council accounted for 24 percent of worldwide crude supply in 2011 and 30 percent of total reserves, according to BP Plc’s Statistical Review of World Energy, published in June 2012.

“Oil prices rose in March to levels not seen since 2008, which may adversely affect the global economy, particularly the economies of developing and emerging countries, as well as negatively impact global oil demand,” al-Naimi said in a speech at the conference.

“We continued our policy of allaying market fears, providing supplies when needed and limiting high price fluctuations during the ensuing months till this present day,” he said.

Saudi crude pricing

Setting price and letting quantity adjust:

Daily Oil Note: OSPs a Critical Piece in the Supply Puzzle


A key source of market uncertainty is how much oil Saudi Arabia will produce and export over the next few months. We see reports that Saudi Aramco recently offered additional cargoes to term buyers, but reportedly many declined because pricing was unattractive versus alternatives. Tanker bookings also do not point to a substantial ramp up in Middle East liftings in coming weeks. In fact, they are running well behind the pace in June.

Alwaleed: Saudis Seek Oil Price of $70-$80

This is the second time he’s said this in the last couple of weeks.

If he’s right about the Saudis wanting that price, that’s where the price will go.


Alwaleed: Saudis Seek Oil Price of $70-$80

May 29 (CNBC) —Prince Alwaleed bin Talal said an oil price of $70 to $80 a barrel is in the best interests of Saudi Arabia because it diminishes the urgency in the U.S. and Europe to develop alternative energy sources.

“We don’t want the West to go and find alternatives,” Alwaleed, a nephew of Saudi King Abdullah, said in an interview on CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS,” scheduled for broadcast tomorrow. “The higher the price of oil goes, the more they have incentives to go and find alternatives.”

The rebellion in Libya, political turmoil in Bahrain and speculative buying are responsible for driving oil prices to more than $100 a barrel, Alwaleed said. Crude for July delivery rose 36 cents to settle at $100.59 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange yesterday. Prices have increased 35 percent in the past year.

Alwaleed, who owns Citigroup Inc. (C) shares and ranks 26th on Forbes magazine’s list of the world’s richest billionaires with a net worth of $19.6 billion, said he continues to invest in the U.S. and that the nation is “down, for sure, but it is not out.” Standard & Poor’s lowered its U.S. credit-rating outlook on April 18 to negative, citing the widening budget deficit.

Saudi Arabia needs to enact laws that allow for greater public participation in government, Alwaleed said. U.S. President Barack Obama’s administration is seeking to encourage pro-democracy movements inspired by those that ousted longtime leaders in Tunisia and Egypt as part of the so-called Arab Spring to create broader, regional changes.

Saudi price setting

Yes, they use the specs for cover and get away with it

They announce their posted prices will be a spread off of ‘market prices’
And then raise their posted prices lock step with higher prices from specs.

If instead the simply left their posted prices alone the price would quickly come back to their posted prices.

It seems to me impossible they don’t know this and are playing us for complete fools

WikiLeaks: Saudis often warned U.S. about oil speculators

Beware of ‘Debt Bomb’ and $70-$80 crude : Prince Alwaleed

So how would the fact that even the world’s largest investors don’t even begin to understand the monetary system
fit into the various theories about markets efficiently allocating capital, etc?

And note that he also did just say on CNBC the Saudi’s objective is $70-80 for crude.
So even though he’s probably not the decision maker, seems he does understand how a monopolist sets price.

Raise Ceiling but Beware of ‘Debt Bomb’: Prince Alwaleed

By Jeff Cox

May 20 (CNBC) &#8212 Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal called on US lawmakers to raise the debt ceiling, while also warning that steps must be taken to control government spending.

The renowned investor and philanthropist, and nephew of King Abdullah, also rejected the notion that the US could delay payments on its bonds for several days as has been suggested by Rep. Paul Ryan and hedge fund manager Stanley Druckenmiller.

“We in the outside world, outside the United States, believe the United States is not giving much care and attention to this time bomb that you have right now here,” bin Talal said in a CNBC interview.

“You need some structural changes in the United States,” he added. “You can’t go forever with $1 trillion in arrears. That’s the thing.”

Saudi Arabia Worried About Speculators’ Interest in Oil

Is this a signal for lower prices?
Or just talk to disguise the fact that they are the price setters?

Trying to figure out what they are going to do next is much like Fed watching.

Saudi Arabia Worried About Speculators’ Interest in Oil

By Jackie DeAngelis

May 19 (CNBC) — Saudi Arabia will take a cautious approach to opening up its stock markets to international investors, and the country is concerned about speculative interest in oil markets, finance minister Ibrahim Al-Assaf told CNBC.

Al-Assaf said in an interview that the Kingdom worries about high oil prices, and that he believes that speculators are currently propping up the market.

Bullish Funds Slash Commodity Bets by $17 Billion

And the question is, who did they sell to?

Yes, with futures and forwards for every long there is a short, but that doesn’t mean the short is a speculator.

It is more likely that there is a long inventory position, directly or indirectly, behind most short futures positions.

So the short in the futures and forward market is either a producer or another long with a physical inventory position.

So would producers cover based on last week’s action? Probably not.
Would the holder of the long cash and carry position unwind?
Only if the spread sufficiently changed in his favor.

So the most likely explanation is that the longs sold to different longs.
And not necessarily ‘strong hands’ like end users and central banks.

And if actual supply did get ahead of demand, prices adjust to get them back in line.
And producers don’t stop producing until prices at least get to their marginal cost of production.

And after watching what happened in Pakistan, and signs of weak demand and expanded supply down the road, the Saudis may have decided that lower crude prices might be in their best interest?
Impossible to say, but their posted prices are being reset lower as the spot prices fall.

Which could mean what is all, in the grand scheme of things, dollar short covering as previously described, has only just begun.

Bullish Funds Slash Commodity Bets by $17 Billion

May 14 (Reuters) —Big hedge funds and speculators cut their bullish bets on commodity markets by $17 billion in the week through Tuesday, the biggest bear turn since at least 2009, regulatory data showed on Friday.

The so-called “managed money” funds cut their overall net long holdings in 22 U.S. futures markets by over 222,000 contracts or 13 percent in the five days ended May 10, according to Reuters calculations based on the Commodity Futures Trading Commission’s weekly Commitment of Traders.

The data, based on both futures and options positions, confirm that some big hedge funds, commodity trading advisors (CTAs) and other major speculators dramatically pared back long positions during a week in which prices abruptly collapsed before staging a modest rebound.

But it also shows that in some markets, such as oil, the story was more complicated.

The one-week cut in holdings was the largest since 2010, when available data begins. Total fund length still stood at its highest since mid-March at 1.5 million contracts.

“I would view this as a bearish situation. We have a confirmed flow of selling with substantial remaining net long positions that can fuel an ongoing flow of that selling,” said Tim Evans, energy analyst at Citi Futures Perspective.

The value of total fund holdings fell to $116.8 billion, less than a third of the total amount of investor capital estimated to be allocated to commodity markets worldwide. Some of that money is in over-the-counter contracts or invested via banks, which are part of a different CFTC group.

Although it is an imperfect gauge, the CFTC data offers the best clues yet as to how traders positioned during the most volatile week in two years.

Crude oil collapsed by $10 on May 5 in a rout that traders are still struggling to explain, taking commodities with them, but then rebounded Monday and Tuesday.

Oil Longs Slash $6.5 Billion


The biggest decline in the value of net long positions occurred in the crude oil market, where prices dropped by about 6.5 percent. The New York Mercantile Exchange’s U.S. crude oil futures and the IntercontinentalExchange’s look-alike contract saw speculators’ net long position drop by $6.5 billion.

The notional figure is calculated by Reuters based on the change in the net position from a week ago, multiplied by the contract’s value at the end of the period. Because most investors trade commodities on margin, the drop in the value of positions is not directly equivalent to total divestment.

Bullish bets on oil fell to the lowest since late February, when traders were beginning to factor in more geopolitical risk from Middle East instability and war in Libya.

But the drop occurred even as the total open interest — the number of outstanding futures contracts that haven’t been settled — rose to a record, indicating that more traders were opening positions than were closing them during the week.

While bullish speculators sold long positions actively during the week, bearish speculators also added new short positions, increasing the short interest to the highest since late February.

The “swap dealers” category, generally big banks, covered some of their large net short position.

Gold, Silver Liquidation

Precious metals also saw heavy selling during the week, although this was more the result of pure long liquidation than traders taking up new short positions.

Long holdings in COMEX gold fell by nearly 20,000 contracts or 10 percent on the week, a reduction equivalent to roughly $3 billion, the biggest drop since last November. Gold futures fell by about 1.5 percent that week.

Big hedge funds had actually begun paring positions weeks before prices reached an all-time high of nearly $50 an ounce.

At about 19,000 contracts, speculative net length is at its second-lowest since early 2010.

The Chicago corn saw similar positioning dominated by fund managers taking profits.

Bullish funds cut their length by some $950 million to take positions to their lowest in six weeks, and near the lowest since the middle of last year.

Prices fell by a more modest 1.8 percent.

“They still have a sizable amount and if things don’t go their way, there could be more liquidation to come,” said grains analyst Mark Schultz at Northstar Commodity Investments Co. in Minneapolis.

Saudi oil production, Donald Trump, and President Obama

The Saudis operate by posting prices for their refiners and then filling all orders at their posted prices.

It looks like the spike in demand for Saudi crude due to Libya has pretty much passed, and Libya is not back to full production.

So look for Saudi production to fall further when Libya comes back on line.

Prices, however, will remain at whatever level the Saudis decide to post, much like Donald Trump has been proclaiming. And with Trump having the President’s ear, there’s at least an outside chance the President figures it out and lets the Saudis know he’s on to them and works out a price cut?

Saudi Uneasy With High Oil Price, Worried About Economy

Could be just talk or a prelude to a price cut.
No way to tell in advance- it’s a political decision on their part.

And it’s not illegal for them to place their personal and state bets first, and then cut price.
And it’s not illegal for them to cut any kind of a deal with anyone, anywhere in the world with regard to price.

In fact, it would be foolish not to.

Saudi uneasy with high oil price, worried about economy

By Cho Mee-young and Miyoung Kim

April 26 (Reuters) — Top oil exporter Saudi Arabia is uneasy with high oil prices and concerned about their impact on the global economy, the chief executive of state oil firm Aramco said on Tuesday.

Oil prices recovered from early losses on Tuesday, with Brent crude LCOc1 trading up 16 cents at $123.82 a barrel at 1059 GMT. Aramco Chief Executive Khalid al-Falih’s comments at an industry event in South Korea had weighed on sentiment earlier, when prices fell amid a wider decline in commodities.

“We are not comfortable with oil prices where they are today…I am concerned about the impact it could have on the global economy,” Falih told an industry gathering in South Korea.

There was no tightness in global oil markets, Falih said. His comments echoed those of Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi, who said last week that the kingdom had cut oil output in March as the market was oversupplied.

Unrest in North Africa and the Middle East and strong demand growth in Asia have pushed oil prices to their highest levels since 2008, triggering concern among consumers costly oil would harm economic growth and crimp fuel demand. OPEC producers also warned last week of the strain of high energy prices on economies still fragile as they emerge from the global financial crisis.

The kingdom has enough capacity to meet any spike in demand and plug short-term outages in supply, Falih said, adding that without Saudi spare capacity, oil price volatility would have been a lot worse when Libyan supply was lost.

OPEC’s largest producer boosted supply in February to above 9 million bpd to plug the gap left by fellow OPEC member Libya, where civil war cut exports. Saudi Arabia is the only oil producer with significant spare capacity to meet large supply outages such as that experienced in Libya.

Riyadh boosted capacity to 12.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in 2009, just as the global economic downturn cut demand. This left it with a supply cushion of over 4 million bpd, more than twice the spare capacity it targets of 1.5 million bpd to 2 million bpd. Output stood at 8.292 million bpd in March, down from 9.125 million bpd in February.

“People need to know that there are millions of barrels per day of spare capacity available,” Falih said.

Comments from the Algeria Oil Minister

DJ Algeria Oil Min:Increasingly Hard To Understand Market Dynamics

Agreed!

DJ Algeria Oil Min:Oil Markets Increasingly Respond To Financial Speculation

Agreed! The funds involved in commodity speculation dwarf the funds involved in the physical markets

DJ Algeria Oil Min:Market Volatility Makes Energy Investment Difficult

Agreed! The risk of a price collapse is a major factor for long term investment decisions.

DJ Algeria Oil Min: Seeking To Exploit Shale Fields In Algeria
DJ Algeria Oil Min: Will Seek Partnerships To Exploit Unconventional Oil, Gas
DJ Algeria Oil Min:Sonatrach, Partners To Invest $2.5B/Year On Unconventional Hydrocarbons
DJ Algeria Oil Min: Europe Will Need Long-Term Gas Contracts

Yes, long term contract work best for both producers and users to ensure the viability of investments and the stability of supply and price

DJ Algeria Oil Min: No Shortage Of Physical Oil

Agreed! Reinforces the fact that the Saudis are the swing producer/ultimate price setter as previously discussed

DJ Algeria Oil Min: OPEC Will Respond If There’s A Shortage Of Crude

Confirming excess Saudi capacity estimates

DJ Algeria Oil Min: No Requests For Extra Crude From Algeria

Confirming no supply shortages and Saudi price setting