Mortgage apps down

Still no sign of private sector credit expansion from housing.

US Home Loan Demand Drops, Rates at 10-Month High

February 9 (Reuters) — Applications for U.S. home mortgages dropped last week as the highest interest rates in 10 months sapped demand for home loan refinancing, an industry group said Wednesday.

The Mortgage Bankers Association said its seasonally adjusted index of mortgage application activity, which includes both refinancing and home purchase demand, fell 5.5 percent in the week ended Feb. 4.

The MBA’s seasonally adjusted index of refinancing applications fell 7.7 percent last week.

The gauge of loan requests for home purchases was down 1.4 percent.

Fixed 30-year mortgage rates averaged 5.13 percent in the week, up 32 basis points from 4.81 percent the prior week.

It was the highest rate since the week ended April 9, 2010.

euro zone issue

I’ve been on the road, and not as close to things as usual, so from what I’ve seen and heard:

Looking at the market prices I’d guess yesterday’s sell off was a euro zone credit response.

The euro dropped a quick 3% and gold went up enough to be up even in dollars.

When Europeans get scared they often run to gold and dollars.

The ECB reportedly bought some Irish paper, indicating concern and also showing they will continue to support national govt funding.

Liquidity is not what it used to be. Sudden violent moves can just as easily be due to relatively small buyers and sellers and not any kind of fundamental shift. It can all reverse just as quickly as it sold off.

I’d key off the euro. It was up a tad last I checked, and stocks were stabilizing.

The fact that q2 earnings were very strong even as Q2 GDP was not so strong is a good sign for stocks.

Congress has extended unemployment benefits, approved 26 billion for the states, and is toying with extending the tax cuts set to expire, all indicating there will not be any serious deficit reduction interference for at least the rest of the year.

Last I checked Federal revenues had bottomed and were starting to rise indicating an underlying positive tone to the economy.

8%+ continuing Federal deficits are a very large tailwind that I expect to keep GDP in positive territory.

Weekly claims are on the high side, but not at double dip levels and continuing claims continue to fall. And the combo of hours worked and new jobs shows ongoing improvement.

Lack of consumer credit expansion (borrow to buy) keeps it all moderate, though poised for expansion as debt to income ratios have continued to fall due to the federal deficits.

Federal deficits have added to net financial assets and incomes of households, allowing them to spend from income and also add to savings, as indicated by firm final demand in the Q2 GDP revisions.

Lastly, Q3 has shown declines in a variety of markets over the last few years making rear view mirror traders more than cautious.

Sector Analysis Update

Looks like the deficits got high enough in the US and Euro zone to reverse things, and I’d guess UK and Japan as well even though the charts don’t yet show the reversal because past deficits of this magnitude would have been more than sufficient and there recent data is showing signs of a turn.

This is all usually indicative of a multi year upturn, who magnitude depends on the extent private credit expansion kicks in.
In the past the ‘borrow to spend’ private credit expansions have been helped by a variety of ‘peculiar’ events, including the credit expansion due to sub prime and other housing frauds most recently, the dot com era’s borrowing to fund impossible business plans, the credit expansion driven by the S and L frauds in the 80’s, emerging market credit expansion before that, etc. etc.

This time might be different/less robust if credit expansion channels are kept honest and fiscal policy tightened.