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Archive for August 17th, 2009

Robert Pirsig

Posted by WARREN MOSLER on 17th August 2009


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From ‘Lila:’

“Of all the contributions America has made to the history of the world, the idea of freedom from a social hierarchy has been the greatest…”

“And yes, although Jefferson called this doctrine of socially equality ‘self evident,’ it is not at all self evident. Scientific evidence and the social evidence of history indicate the opposite is self-evident. There is no ‘self-evidence’ in European history that all men are created equal. There’s no nation in Europe that doesn’t trace its history back to a time when it was ‘self-evident’ that all men are created unequal. Jean Jacques Rousseau, who is sometimes given credit for this doctrine, certainly didn’t get it from the history of Europe or Asia or Africa. He got it from the impact of the New World upon Europe and from contemplation of one particular kind of individual who lived in the New World, the person he called the ‘Noble Savage.’

The idea that ‘all men are created equal’ is a gift to the world from the American Indian. Europeans who settled here only transmitted it as a doctrine that they sometimes followed and sometimes did not. The real source was someone for whom social equality was no mere doctrine, who had equality built into his bones. To him it was inconceivable that the world could be any other way. For him there was no other way of life.”


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Another from Pirsig

Posted by WARREN MOSLER on 17th August 2009


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From ‘Lila:’

“The idea that ‘man is born free but is everywhere in chains’ was never true. There are no chains more vicious than the chains of biological necessity into which every child is born. Society exists primarily to free people from these biological chains. It has done that job so stunningly well intellectuals forget the fact and turn upon society with a shameful ingratitude for what society has done.”


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Robert Pirsig on crime and freedom

Posted by WARREN MOSLER on 17th August 2009


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From ‘Lila:’

“What the Metaphysics of Quality indicates is that the 20th century intellectual faith in man’s basic goodness as spontaneous and natural is disastrously naive. The ideal of a harmonious society in which everyone without coercion cooperates happily with everyone else for the mutual good of all is a devastating fiction. It isn’t consistent with scientific fact…Primitive tribes such as the American Indians have no record of sweetness and cooperations with other tribes. They ambushed them, tortured them, dashed their children’s brains out on rocks. If man is basically good, than maybe it’s man’s basic goodness which invented social institutions to repress this kind of biological savagery in the first place…”

…We must understand that when a society undermines intellectual freedom for its own purposes it is absolutely morally bad, but when it represses biological
freedom for its own purposes it is absolutely morally good. The destructive sympathy of intellectuals lawlessness in the sixties and since is derived,
no doubt, from what is perceived to be a common enemy, the social system. But the Metaphysics of Quality that this sympathy was really stupid.”

The idea that biological crimes can be ended by intellect alone, that you can talk crime to death, doesn’t work…Only social patterns can control
biological patterns, and the instrument of conversation between society and biology is not words. The instrument of of conversation between society and
biology has always been a policeman or a soldier and his gun. All the laws of history, all the arguments, all the Constitutions and the Bills of Rights and
Declarations of Independence are nothing more than instructions to the military and the police.”

A culture that supports the dominance of social values over biological values is an absolutely superior culture one that does not, and a culture that supports the dominance of intellectual values over social values is absolutely superior to one that does not.”

Where biological values are undermining social values, intellectuals must identify social behavior, no matter what its ethnic connection, and support it all the way without restraint. Intellectuals must find biological behavior, no matter what its ethical connection, and limit or destroy destructive biological patterns with complete moral ruthlessness, the way a doctor destroys germs, before those biological patterns destroy civilization itself.”


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Comments on Obama by economist Russ Huntley

Posted by WARREN MOSLER on 17th August 2009


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We now fact the risk that Obama loses whatever control of Congress he might have had as he loses popular support and the nation goes rudderless, while rising unemployment and faltering financial markets again work to get the deficit where it needs to be via the very, very ugly automatic stabilizers that might have more work to do.

And nothing the right fiscal adjustments (payroll tax holiday/per capita revenue sharing) can’t immediately reverse, but that seems less and less likely with each passing day.

And a national media that continues to have it all wrong.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 Russell Huntley wrote:

I would agree and I am an Independent. I know he has lost the progressives.

I have not seen Obama do anything different that what Bush did:

Still doing extraditions and harsh interrogations (possibly torture)

Still fighting wars and wasting tax payer’s money.

Still imprisoning 3% of our population for profit.

Economy is still a mess because the man who stood for change surrounded himself with a Wall Street team, who know nothing different. So the banks keep barely surviving. He should have put the money in the hands of the civilians and business through a payroll tax cut. Business’s would have had more money to retain employees and employees would have more money to buy goods, and if needed to save. Those savings would have gone to banks.

Health care — will give him credit, he is trying to give it a shot, but probably will end up doing nothing new but lining some pockets along the way.

Cap and trade — again whose pockets does that line. Probably GS and JP Morgan.

Stimulus — Where are our great new infrastructure projects. I thought we were going to build a ladder to stars, not a pit to hell.

By the way — Peter Schiff, the doom and gloomer, gold advocate and a person who thinks the FED should be abolished, gets a lot of press coverage. He recently announced that is running for Senator Dodd’s seat as a Republican. In his first month he raised $800,000. Pretty impressive. I think there is a large mass of the population out there who feel 100% unrepresented and who will support someone who says that they will represent them. Obama did it, but it appears he cannot speak honestly and that he is merely a mirage and probably the reason why his poll numbers are going in Bush’s direction.


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