Greenspan sees early signs of U.S. stagflation

Agree, if food/crude/import&export prices keep rising, there will be serious fireworks between congress and the fed. This will include blaming the fed for the high gasoline prices, for example.

Greenspan sees early signs of U.S. stagflation

U.S. economy is showing early signs of stagflation as growth threatens to stall while food and energy prices soar, former U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said on Sunday.

In an interview on ABC’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos,” Greenspan said low inflation was a major contributor to economic growth and prices must be held in check.

“We are beginning to get not stagflation, but the early symptoms of it,” Greenspan said.

“Fundamentally, inflation must be suppressed,” he added. “It’s critically important that the Federal Reserve is allowed politically to do what it has to do to suppress the inflation rates that I see emerging, not immediately, but clearly over the intermediate and longer-term period.”


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Re: liquidity or insolvency–does it matter?

(email with Randall Wray)

On Dec 15, 2007 9:05 PM, Wray, Randall wrote:
> By ________
>
> This time the magic isn’t working.
>
> Why not? Because the problem with the markets isn’t just a lack of liquidity – there’s also a fundamental problem of solvency.
>
> Let me explain the difference with a hypothetical example.
>
> Suppose that there’s a nasty rumor about the First Bank of Pottersville: people say that the bank made a huge loan to the president’s brother-in-law, who squandered the money on a failed business venture.
>
> Even if the rumor is false, it can break the bank. If everyone, believing that the bank is about to go bust, demands their money out at the same time, the bank would have to raise cash by selling off assets at fire-sale prices – and it may indeed go bust even though it didn’t really make that bum loan.
>
> And because loss of confidence can be a self-fulfilling prophecy, even depositors who don’t believe the rumor would join in the bank run, trying to get their money out while they can.

If there wasn’t credible deposit insurance.

>
> But the Fed can come to the rescue. If the rumor is false, the bank has enough assets to cover its debts; all it lacks is liquidity – the ability to raise cash on short notice. And the Fed can solve that problem by giving the bank a temporary loan, tiding it over until things calm down.

Yes.

> Matters are very different, however, if the rumor is true: the bank really did make a big bad loan. Then the problem isn’t how to restore confidence; it’s how to deal with the fact that the bank is really, truly insolvent, that is, busted.

Fed closes the bank, declares it insolvent, ‘sells’ the assets, and transfers the liabilities to another bank, sometimes along with a check if shareholder’s equity wasn’t enough to cover the losses, and life goes on. Just like the S and L crisis.

>
> My story about a basically sound bank beset by a crisis of confidence, which can be rescued with a temporary loan from the Fed, is more or less what happened to the financial system as a whole in 1998. Russia’s default led to the collapse of the giant hedge fund Long Term Capital Management, and for a few weeks there was panic in the markets.
>
> But when all was said and done, not that much money had been lost; a temporary expansion of credit by the Fed gave everyone time to regain their nerve, and the crisis soon passed.

More was lost then than now, at least so far. 100 billion was lost immediately due to the Russian default and more subsequently. So far announced losses have been less than that, and ‘inflation adjusted’ losses would have to be at least 200 billion to begin to match the first day of the 1998 crisis (August 17).

>
> In August, the Fed tried again to do what it did in 1998, and at first it seemed to work. But then the crisis of confidence came back, worse than ever. And the reason is that this time the financial system – both banks and, probably even more important, nonbank financial institutions – made a lot of loans that are likely to go very, very bad.

Same in 1998. It ended only when it was announced Deutsche Bank was buying Banker’s Trust and seemed the next day it all started ‘flowing’ again.

>
> It’s easy to get lost in the details of subprime mortgages, resets, collateralized debt obligations, and so on. But there are two important facts that may give you a sense of just how big the problem is.
>
> First, we had an enormous housing bubble in the middle of this decade. To restore a historically normal ratio of housing prices to rents or incomes, average home prices would have to fall about 30 percent from their current levels.

Incomes are sufficient to support the current prices. That’s why they haven’t gone down that much yet and are still up year over year. Earnings from export industries are helping a lot so far.

>
> Second, there was a tremendous amount of borrowing into the bubble, as new home buyers purchased houses with little or no money down, and as people who already owned houses refinanced their mortgages as a way of converting rising home prices into cash.

Yes, there was a large drop in aggregate demand when borrowers could no longer buy homes, and that was over a year ago. That was a real effect, and if exports had not stepped in to carry the ball, GDP would not have been sustained at current levels.

>
> As home prices come back down to earth, many of these borrowers will find themselves with negative equity – owing more than their houses are worth. Negative equity, in turn, often leads to foreclosures and big losses for lenders.

‘Often’? There will be some losses, but so far they have not been sufficient to somehow reduce aggregate demand more than exports are adding to demand. Yes, that may change, but it hasn’t yet. Q4 GDP forecasts were just revised up 2% for example.

>
> And the numbers are huge. The financial blog Calculated Risk, using data from First American CoreLogic, estimates that if home prices fall 20 percent there will be 13.7 million homeowners with negative equity. If prices fall 30 percent, that number would rise to more than 20 million.

Not likely if income holds up. That’s why the fed said it was watching labor markets closely.

And government tax receipts seem OK through November, which is a pretty good coincident indicator incomes are holding up.

>
> That translates into a lot of losses, and explains why liquidity has dried up. What’s going on in the markets isn’t an irrational panic. It’s a wholly rational panic, because there’s a lot of bad debt out there, and you don’t know how much of that bad debt is held by the guy who wants to borrow your money.

Enough money funds in particular have decided to not get involved in anyting but treasury securities, driving those rates down. That will sort itself out as investors in those funds put their money directly in banks ans other investments paing more than the funds are now earning, but that will take a while.

>
> How will it all end?

This goes on forever – I’ve been watching it for 35 years – no end in sight!

> Markets won’t start functioning normally until investors are
> reasonably sure that they know where the bodies – I mean, the bad
> debts – are buried. And that probably won’t happen until house prices
> have finished falling and financial institutions have come clean about
> all their losses.

And by then it’s too late to invest and all assets prices returned to ‘normal’ – that’s how markets seem to work.

> All of this will probably take years.
>
> Meanwhile, anyone who expects the Fed or anyone else to come up with a plan that makes this financial crisis just go away will be sorely disappointed.

Right, only a fiscal response can restore aggregate demand, and no one is in favor of that at the moment. A baby step will be repealing the AMT and not ‘paying for it’ which may happen.

Meanwhile, given the inflationary bias due to food, crude, and import and export prices in genera, a fiscal boost will be higly controversial as well.


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A tale of mixed metaphors

Ben Bernanke will save the world, but first we bleed

Posted by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard on 14 Dec 2007 at 12:48

The Bernanke ‘Put’ has expired.

Are Bernanke’s academic doctrines blurring his vision?

The Fed cuts a quarter point, and what happens? Wall Street’s ungrateful wretches knock 294 off the Dow 294 in an hour and half; the home builders index dives 10pc; Japanese bond surge; Euribor spreads rise to an all-time high of 99 basis points.

Have the markets begun to digest the awful possibility that central banks cannot cut rates fast enough to prevent a profits crunch because they are caught between the Scylla of the credit crunch and the Charybdis of inflation, a new deviant form of stagflation?

Nor is there any evidence or credible theory that interest rate cuts would help. For example, fed economists say that 1% rates didn’t do much – it was the fiscal impulse of 03 that added aggregate demand and turned the economy.

US headline CPI is stuck at around 3.5pc to 4pc, German CPI is 3pc (and wholesale inflation 5.7pc), China is 6.9pc, and Russia is skidding out of control at 10pc.

Note ‘out of control’. Mainstream theory says inflation will accelerate once it gets going.

As for the Fed, it now has to fret about the dollar – Banquo’s ghost at every FOMC meeting these days. A little beggar-thy-neighbour devaluation is welcome in Washington: a disorderly rout is another matter. No Fed chairman can sit idly by if half Asia and the Mid-East break their dollar pegs, threatening to end a century of US dollar primacy.

They are more worried about ‘imported inflation’ than ‘primacy’.

Yes, inflation is a snapshot of the past, not the future. It lags the cycle. After the dotcom bust, US prices kept rising for ten months. Alan Greenspan blithely ignored it as background noise, though regional Fed hawks put up a fight.

He had a deflationary global context, as he said publicly and in his book. That has changed, and now import prices are instead rising substantially.

Ben Bernanke has not yet acquired the Maestro’s licence to dispense with the Fed staff model when it suits him.

As above, different global context.

In any case, his academic doctrines may now be blurring his vision.

Not sure why they are, but all evidence is they are based on fixed exchange rate/gold standard theory.

So, in case you thought that every little sell-off on Wall Street was a God-given chance to load up further on equities, let me pass on a few words of caution from the High Priests of finance.

A deluge of pre-Christmas predictions have been flooding into my E-mail box, some accompanied by lavish City lunches. The broad chorus-by now well known – is that the US will hit a brick wall in 2008.

Yes, originally scheduled for 07. Not saying we won’t, but I am saying those forecasting it hae a poor record and suspect models.

Less understood is that Europe, Asia, and emerging markets will also flounder to varying degrees, knocking away yet another prop for US equities – held aloft until now by non-US global earnings.

Yes, that is a risk.

Morgan Stanley has just added a “mild recession” alert for Japan (Buckle Up) on top of its “manufacturing recession risk” for the eurozone. It’s US call (`Recession Coming’), it is no longer hedged about with many ifs or buts. Americans face a “perfect storm” and CAPEX is buckling. Demand will shrink by 1pc a quarter for nine months.

The bank has cut its target MSCI emerging market equities by 6pc next year. I suspect that this will be cut a lot further as the plot thickens, but you have to start somewhere.

They have been bearish all year.

Merrill Lynch has much the same overall view. “The US consumer is on the precipice of its first recessionary phase since 1991. The earnings recession has already arrived.”

Maybe, but no evidence yet. Employment remains sufficient for the consumer to muddle through, and exports are picking up the slack.

“Real estate deflations are unique and have never ended well for the consumer, the credit market, or the economy. Maybe it will be different this time, but we fail to see why.”

The subtraction to aggregate demand due to real estate is maybe a year behind us and rising exports have filled the gap.

And this from a Goldman Sachs note entitled “Quantifying the Stock Market Impact of a Possible Recession.”

“Our team believes that there is about a 40pc to 45pc chance that the US will enter recession over the next six months. If a recession does occur, it has the potential to feed on itself,” said bank’s global markets strategist Peter Berezin.

Goldman just upped their Q4 GDP foregast by 1.5%, and it’s now at 1.8%.

“We expect home prices to decline 7% in 2007 and a further 7% in 2008. But if the US does fall into a recession, home prices could decline by as much 30% nationwide, which would make it the worst housing bust since at least the Great Depression.

“If global growth slows next year as we expect, cyclical stocks that so far have held up quite well may feel more pressure. It seems unlikely that the elevated earnings estimates for next year can be sustained,” he said.

Lots of ‘if’ and ‘we expect’ language, but no actual ‘channels’ to that end. No one seems to have any. Best I can determine if exports hold up, we muddle through.

Now, stocks can do well in a soft-landing (which Goldman Sachs still expects, on balance), since falling interest rates offset lost earnings. But if this does tip over into outright contraction, History is not kind.

Stocks are likely to adjust PE’s to higher interest rates now that expectations are moving toward lower odds of rate cutting due to inflation.

The average fall in S&P 500 over the last 9 recessions is 13pc from peak to trough. These include 1969 (18pc), 1981 (23pc) and 2001 (52pc).

Still up 5% for the year. And it has been an OK leading indicator as well for quite a while.

As for the canard that stocks are currently cheap at a projected P/E ratio of 15.3, this is based on an illusion. US profit margins are currently inflated by 250 basis points above their ten-year average.

Inflated? Seems a byproduct of productivity and related efficiencies. No telling how long that continues. And products changes so fast there is no time for ‘competitive forces’ to drive down prices to marginal revenue with many products; so, margins remain high.

While Goldman Sachs does not use the term, this is obviously a profits bubble. Super-cheap credit in early 2007 – the lowest spreads ever seen – flattered earnings.

Not sure it’s related to ‘cheap credit’ as much as productivity.

I would add too that free global capital flows have allowed corporations to engage in labour arbitrage, playing off cheap Asian wages against the US and European wages. This game is surely played out. Chinese wages are shooting up.

Yes, as above, and this is the global context Bernanke faces – import prices rising rather than falling.

Voters in industrial democracies will not allow capitalists to continue take an ever larger share of the pie. Hence Sarkozy, Hillary Clinton, and the Labour victory in Australia.

Not sure both sides are pro profits. That’s where the campaign funding is coming from and most voters are shareholders or otherwise profit directly and indirectly from corporate profits. Wage earners are a shrinking constituency with diminishing political influence.

Once you strip out this profits anomaly, Goldman Sachs says the P/E ratio is currently 26. This compares with a post-war average of 18, and a pre-recession average of 17.

As above. PE’s are more likely to adjust down near term due to valuation issues – rising interest rates and perception of risk.

“It is clear that if the US enters a recession, there is significant scope for both earnings and stock prices to decline beyond what the market has already priced. The average lag between peak and nadir in stock prices is only 4 months. This implies a swift correction in equity prices.”

Sure, but that’s a big ‘if’.

The spill-over would be a 20pc fall in the DAX (Frankfurt) and the CAC (Paris), 19pc fall on London’s FTSE 250, 13pc on the IBEX (Madrid), and 10pc on the MIB (Milan).

Doesn’t sound catastrophic.

Be advised, this is not a Goldman Sachs prediction: it is merely a warning, should the economy tip over.

Yes, but without a direct reason for a recession, nor a definition of a recession, for that matter.

Now, whatever happens to US, British, French, Spanish, Italian, and Greek house prices, and whatever happens to the Shanghai stock bubble or to Latin American bonds, the Fed and fellow central banks can – and ultimately will – come to the rescue with full-throttle reflation.

Wrong, the fed doesn’t have that button. Lower interest rates maybe, if they dare to do that with the current inflation risks of the triple supply shock of crude, food, and the lower $US.

But as shown with Japan, low rates do not add aggregate demand as assumed.

Merrill says the Fed may cut rates to 2pc. (rates were 1pc in 2003 and 2004). Let me go a step further. It would not surprise me if debt deflation in the Anglo-Saxon countries proves so serious that we reach Japanese extremes – perhaps zero rates, with a dollop of ‘quantitative easing’ for good measure.

Right, and with the same consequences – those moves have nothing to do with aggregate demand.

The Club Med states may need the same, but they will not get it because they no longer control their monetary policy. So Heaven help them and their democracies.

True, the systemic risk is in the Eurozone. Not sure he knows why.

The central banks are not magicians, of course. We forget now that Keynes and his allies in the early 1930s knew that monetary policy ‘a l’outrance’ could be used to flood the system by buying bonds. They concluded that such a policy might backfire – possibly causing panic – since investors were not ready for revolutionary methods.

Keynes was right but was talking in the context of the gold standard of the time. Not directly applicable today without ‘adjustments’ to current floating fx regimes.

This at least has changed. The markets expect a bail-out, demand it, and believe religiously in its benign effects.

Ben Bernanke said in his 2002 ‘helicopter’ speech that there was practically no limit to what sorts of assets the Fed could buy in order to inject money.

No limits, but big differences to aggregate demand. Buying securities has no effect on demand, while buying real goods and services has an immediate effect, also as Keynes and others have pointed out many times.

The bank’s current mandate does not allow it to buy equities, but that could be changed easily enough.

Yes. Won’t support demand, but will support equity prices.

So yes, in the end, the Fed can always stop a deflationary spiral.

Yes, but more precisely, the tsy, as they can buy goods and services without nominal limit and support demand at any level they desire. The ‘risks’ are ‘inflation’ not solvency. (See ‘Soft Currency Economics‘.)

As Bernanke said to Milton Freidman on his 90th birthday, the Fed will not repeat the monetary crunch it allowed to happen 1930-32.

That was in the context of the gold standard of the day. Not applicable currently.

“Regarding the Great Depression. You’re right, we did it. We’re very sorry. But thanks to you, we won’t do it again.”

Thanks to floating the $, it hasn’t happened since.

Bernanke is undoubtedly right. The Fed won’t do it again. But before the United States can embark on an economic course that radically transforms the nature of capitalism, speculative markets may have to take a beating – for appearances sake, at least.


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2007-12-14 US Economic Releases

2007-12-14 Consumer Price Index MoM

Consumer Price Index MoM (Nov)

Survey 0.6%
Actual 0.8%
Prior 0.4%
Revised n/a

2007-12-14 CPI Ex Food & Energy MoM

CPI Ex Food & Energy (Nov)

Survey 0.2%
Actual 0.3%
Prior 0.2%
Revised n/a

2007-12-14 Consumer Price Index YoY

Consumer Price Index YoY (Nov)

Survey 4.1%
Actual 4.3%
Prior 3.5%
Revised n/a

2007-12-14 CPI Ex Food & Energy YoY

CPI Ex Food & Energy YoY(Nov)

Survey 2.3%
Actual 2.3%
Prior 2.2%
Revised n/a

2007-12-14 CPI Core Index SA

CPI Core Index SA (Nov)

Survey n/a
Actual 210.177
Prior 212.050
Revised n/a

2007-12-14 Consumer Price Index NSA

Consumer Price Index NSA (Nov)

Survey 209.800
Actual 210.177
Prior 208.936
Revised n/a

Pretty frisky inflation number with one apparent anomaly

  • Headline is 0.796% MoM and 4.3% YoY.
  • Core 0.275% MoM and 2.3% YoY.
  • Many components on trend: OER 0.3%, medical 0.4%, recreation 0.1%, tobacco 0.2%
  • Apparel was off-trend, rising 0.8%.
  • Within apparel, mens and women’s clothing were both negative for the month. So the sole source within this category was ‘toddler and infant’ clothing, rising 1.7%.
  • This would have knocked down core enough to round down to 0.2%.
  • But persistence of inflation here disconcerting to Fed.

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8:30 Numbers

Consensus was high enough, let’s see how tomorrow turns out.

Also retail sales up a lot more than just energy prices, and claims down.

Still no sign yet of aggregate demand breaking down

Lehman earnings higher than estimates

November Inflation Surged; Retail Sales Also Strong

Inflation at the wholesale level was stronger than expected in November, thanks to higher gasoline prices, but retail sales also exceeded expectations as holiday shoppers coped with higher energy costs and the fallout from the housing slump.

U.S. producer prices surged at a 34-year high rate of 3.2 percent in November on a record rise in gasoline prices, the Labor Department said.

Excluding food and energy prices, the producer price index rose an unexpectedly large 0.4 percent, the heftiest gain since February, the report showed. When cars and light trucks also were stripped out, core producer prices rose 0.1 percent.

Autos had been lagging if I recall correctly, so was this overdue?

The rise in prices paid at the farm and factory gate was the largest since August 1973 and was well ahead of analysts’ expectations of a 1.5 percent gain. Analysts polled by Reuters had forecast core prices to rise 0.2 percent.

The 7.2 percent increase in producer prices from November 2006 was the largest 12-month gain since November 1981.

Gasoline prices rose 34.8 percent in the month, eclipsing the previous record gain of 28.8 percent in April 1999. Prices for all energy goods also rose by a record 14.1 percent, surpassing the previous high of 13.4 percent recorded in January 1990.

Sales at U.S. retailers posted a much stronger-than-expected 1.2 percent rise in November, government data showed as holiday shoppers coped with high energy costs and the fallout from a housing slump.

Excluding autos, retail sales gained 1.8 percent, the Commerce Department said.

Surprising on the upside.

Economists polled by Reuters forecast retail sales to rise 0.6 percent while sales ex autos were also projected to increase by 0.6 percent.

However, part of the increase was fueled by mounting energy prices, with gasoline sales spurting 6.8 percent higher in November, which was the largest monthly gain since September 2005 in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

Still, sales excluding gasoline and autos gained 1.1 percent in November after growing just 0.1 percent in the previous month.

First-time claims for U.S. unemployment benefits eased by a slightly more-than-expected 7,000 last week, a Labor Department report showed.

New applications for state unemployment insurance benefits fell to a seasonally adjusted 333,000 in the week ended Dec. 8 from an upwardly revised 340,000 the week before. Analysts polled by Reuters were expecting claims to ease to 335,000 from the previously reported 338,000.

This means the fed still sees no slack in the labor markets.

The four-week moving average of new claims, which smooths out week-to-week fluctuations, fell slightly to 338,750 from a revised 340,750 the prior week.

The number of people continuing to receive jobless benefits after an initial week of aid rose to 2.64 million in the week ended Dec. 1, the most recent week for which statistics are available. Analysts had forecast claims would hold steady at 2.60 million.

The four-week moving average of continued claims rose to 2.61 million, the highest level since the week ended Jan. 7, 2006.

Not good, but not anywhere near bad enough to offset the other numbers reported.

Yesterdays is up 0.9% export number adding to US income and aggregate demand supporting retail sales as well.

Inflation per se is good for nominal equity prices, while the fed fighting inflation with higher rates hurts valuations.

A perceived stronger than expected economy and diminished odds of future rate cuts also likely to shift portfolio allocations back toward the $.


2007-12-12 US Economic Releases

2007-12-12 MBA Mortgage Applications

MBA Mortgage Applications (Dec 7)

Survey n/a
Actual 2.5%
Prior 22.5%
Revised n/a

2007-12-07 Mortgage Bankers Association Purchas Index SA

Mortgage Bankers Association Purchasing Index SA

Looking very firm. Possible evidence housing may have bottomed.

Affordability is up with prices flat to down, rates down, and nominal income growing.

Yes, I’ve heard the stories about multiple applications, but even if relevant it’s been the case for several months.


2007-12-12 Trade Balance

Trade Balance (Oct)

Survey -$58.4B
Actual -$57.8
Prior $-56.5B
Revised -$58.1B

Points to higher gross exports as oil prices were higher.


2007-12-12 Import Trade Index (MoM)

Import Trade Index MoM (Nov)

Survey 2.0%
Actual 2.7%
Prior 1.8%
Revised 1.4%

2007-12-12 Import Price Index (YoY)

Import Trade Index YoY (Nov)

Survey 11.0%
Actual 11.4%
Prior 9.6%
Revised 9.0%

First a series of very high inflation numbers coming this week.


2007-12-12 Monthly Budget Statement

Monthly Budget Statement

Survey -$95.0
Actual -$98.2
Prior -$75.0
Revised n/a

A 17 billion December 1 payment counted for November this year as it fell on a weekend; so, only about a 10 billion over last year. When this goes up in earnest, it is coincident with a slowdown. Watch this number closely!


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Senate energy bill keeps biofuels alive

Senate approves $650M alternative energy billBy MARC LEVY

HARRISBURG, Pa. – Builders of wind farms, owners of coal-fired power plants and buyers of hybrid cars and solar panels would be among those who benefit from a $650 million compromise bill approved Wednesday by the state Senate to promote cleaner energies and conservation.

The measure was approved 44-5 on the Senate’s last day of business for the year. It calls for tax credits, rebates, loans and grants over a decade or more in an effort to cut electricity bills and pollution and make Pennsylvania a destination for a booming renewable and cleaner energy industry.

(snip)

The Senate also passed two biodiesel bills Wednesday. One would require that biodiesel be added to each gallon of diesel sold in Pennsylvania in increasing amounts as in-state production of biodiesel reaches certain levels. The other would raise the in-state biodiesel production subsidy from 5 cents to 75 cents a gallon _ at a cost of about $5 million _ and expand an existing rebate program on purchases of gas-electric hybrid vehicles to other vehicles that burn alternative fuels.

This retains the link between fuel and food as we ‘burn up our food supply’ as we turn it into fuel. Makes fed’s inflation fight that much tougher, as the monetary system will get used whatever fuel can be produced will get used.

“This is a wonderful start and is a great way to end our calendar year with what I think is a great success under our belt,” said Sen. Mary Jo White, the Venango County Republican who was a sponsor of all three bills.


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GC Tsy changes post announcment

I’m mainly interested in LIBOR over the turn as an indicator or how the new international facility is doing.

Also watching to see when higher oil means higher inflation and higher rates, vs. higher oil currently meaning econ weakness and lower rates. Maybe next week after this weeks inflation numbers are out.

GC has lost some of it’s flight to quality bid on term repos. The market is higher across terms as a result of the treasury announcement. Expectations of future rate cuts have not been priced out of the market I will follow up shortly with an AGCY and MBS runs.

GC TSY Last Night Now Change
O/N 4.60 4.23 -0.37
1wk 4.12 4.12 0
2wk 4.03 3.95 -0.08
3wk 3.7 3.75 0.05
1mo 3.7 3.76 0.06
2mo 3.68 3.74 0.06
3mo 3.63 3.71 0.08
6mo 3.62 3.67 0.05
9mo 3.52 3.56 0.04
1yr 3.42 3.46 0.04

* 1wk – 2wk seasonal add need “window dressing” balance sheets


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Wray discussion

(an email with Randall Wray) 

On Dec 11, 2007 10:49 PM, Wray, Randall <WrayR@umkc.edu> wrote:
> Warren: very respectfully, I suggest you might reconsider both your model of the fed’s reaction function as well as the likely course of the “real” economy.
>
> Whatever the fed might have said about “fighting inflation” back last summer is not relevant to near- and medium-term policy. The fed is scared nearly out of its mind about financial mkts and spill-over to the “real economy”. Further, it realizes all inflation pressures are in sectors over which it has no control, and that are just “relative value” stories. Yes, there can be some feed thru effects to nominal values, but the Fed can’t do anything about it. Inflation will not enter the Fed’s decision making in the near and medium term. Yes, they will continue to pay lip-service to it, since their whole strategy of inflation management relies on expectations. But they are far more concerned with asset prices, financial markets, and, less importantly, economic performance.

Already agreed.  As Karim says it, they want to put the liquidity issue to be first, then worry about inflation.
I’m guessing that the ‘new’ liquidity facility they just announced that will be used to set rates over year end for member banks with a greatly expanded list of acceptable collateral may do the trick.

If so, much of the ‘fear’ is gone, and it’s back to the more traditional and ‘comfortable’ inflation vs the economy, which is a
whole different ball game.

>
> The “markets” are also scared out of their minds. Maybe they are all completely wrong, and you are the lone voice of reason. Maybe nothing is going to spill-over into the real sector. But it is worth considering that MAYBE they are correct.

I do give that some weight.  Maybe 25%?  And with govt, pensioners, and indirect govt sectors not going to slow down, the rest has to slow down quite a bit just to get to 0 real growth.  In fact, I see the biggest chance of negative growth coming with ok nominal growth but a high deflator due to statistical variation.  Nominal shows no signs of slowing, and it is a monetary economy.

 My continuing point, however, is that it’s not happening yet, nor is anything I’m seeing that is yet showing actual weakness, apart from so far anecdotal statements about retail sales, and the .2 nominal personal spending number last reported. I have also seen nothing but low gdp forecasts getting revised up continuously.  Maybe that changes.  However, if demand does weaken, I’m not sure it would be due to the financial losses as I still see no ‘channel’ from that to the real economy, apart from  CNBC scaring people into not spending, and that is not a trivial effect!  But so far there doesn’t seem to anything reducing personal income, and borrowing power seems reasonable if the desire is there for (now cheaper) homes, cars, computers, etc. with a non trivial amount coming from export earnings, which seem to be going parabolic.
> In any case, it will probably help you to predict what mkts are doing if you consider that they REALLY believe we are headed for a hard crash, and that this is not just media manipulation. They could be completely wrong. But at least we can predict their behavior.

I hear you, and in fact that has been my explanation of why they 50 in Sept, and then 25 in Oct- blind fear of the unknown/crash landing. But how does that explain yesterdays outcome?  It was at the very low end of expectations.  They even were stingy on the discount rate spread, which costs them nothing in terms of inflation.  All you can say is they were trying to avoid moral hazard risk, which indicates a lot less fear of hard landing than previously, along with reasonably
harsh language on inflation to ‘explain’ to the markets the stinginess of their actions?

>
> I do agree with you that there will be a reversal tomorrow, and after every disappointment at the Fed’s actions. But that is froth. Mkts have to take profits where they can find them–and after 300 points down, the mkt looks cheap. Yes, mortgages are being made. Yes, investment banks will buy-out insurers (to minimize losses–even if the insurers eventually go bankrupt), and so on. You get profits where you can, or you lose all of your business.

Right, a basic driver of capitalism.  The old ‘fear vs greed’ pendulum.

>But massive losses and write-downs will continue. Maybe they are
wrong to do it; maybe it is just paper shuffling; but it is worth
considering that after a few trillion dollars of losses, there could
be a real effect on the economy.

Sure, but you know as well as anyone the real economy is a function of agg demand.  And there’s been no credible channel discussed of how agg demand gets reduced that’s showing up anywhere in the data.  To the contrary, the non resident sector has suddenly become a source of demand for US output that’s already more than made up for the outsized
and sudden drop from the housing sector, as the bid for housing from sub prime borrowers vanished.  That’s an example of a major demand channel vanishing that could have taken the economy down, but was coincidentally rescued by the foreign sector.  The present value gains from the new export demands are roughly offsetting the pv losses from the sub prime bid vanishing.  Hence, equity markets are up about 10% for the year.

The siv’s, the spv’s the junior tranches, and the super senior tranches all have massive negative present values. Yes, if we can ride it out, in 10 years they could all come back. As keynes said, life is too short.

We don’t have to ride out anything if our purchasing power is unchanged at the macro level, and we can sustain demand for our output.

>
> Even if all we are interested in is to predict what the fed and mkts are going to do, it is worth considering that the Fed BELIEVES it is fighting a Fisher-type 1930s debt deflation that will bring down the whole economy, and that most in the mkts also believe that is a plausible outcome.

Agreed!

>They might all be crazy. But they can be self-fulfilling.

yes, as above.

>So far as I know, EVERY former fed official who is now free to speak
is projecting more rate cuts and recession and maybe worse. That
includes mister inflation hawk Larry Meyer (for whom I TA-ed). The
notion that inflation is a problem just is not going to get traction.
maybe not.  but they all blow with the wind- especially the media- and after this weeks inflation numbers we’ll have a better idea.

>
> I could be wrong, but I’m not paid to be right! I view it all as a bemused spectator. However, millions of Americans WILL lose their homes. Maybe they shouldn’t have them. I do not know, but I do lean toward the view that they should and that policy ought to aim for protecting home ownership. In any case, I find it very hard to believe that will have no effect on the economy.

We’ve already had the effect, as above, and it’s been offset by export earnings, at least so far.  Maybe ‘millions’ will lose ownership, but they won’t be unemployed and homeless.  They will rent, or get owner financing, or get bailouts from relatives, etc.  Mtg rates are down from last summer, affordability is up, and employment is relatively high as well.

The only thing to fear is CNBC itself.

Thanks!!!

Warren

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Fed set to revamp liquidity support

Thanks – sounds very similar to what we recommended to them – Fed acting as ‘broker of last resort’ between member banks in good standing. This will get the fed member banks over year end where the liquidity issues are currently concentrated.

Not sure why they didn’t announce this at the meeting to reduce vol after the statement.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6bcfd8ee-a80d-11dc-9485-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1

The Federal Reserve is set to overhaul the way it provides liquidity support to financial markets, following a negative reaction to Tuesday’s interest rate cut.

US stocks fell sharply after the central bank cut rates by only 25 basis points to 4.25 per cent and failed to offer a clear signal of more to come.

The overhaul, which could be announced as early as Wednesday, is likely to take the shape of a new liquidity facility that will auction loans to banks. This would allow the Fed to provide liquidity directly to a large number of financial institutions against a wide range of collateral without the stigma of its existing discount window loans.

The idea is that this would ease severe strains in the market for interbank loans, and help restore more normal conditions in credit markets generally.

However, it is unclear whether the new initiative will win over investors disappointed by Tuesday’s announcement. Many had hoped for a 50bp cut in the main interest rate, or at least a 50bp reduction in the discount rate, and a stronger indication of further cuts in the pipeline.

Dominic Konstam, head of interest rate strategy at Credit Suisse, said: “The Fed disappointed the market in lots of ways.”

The S&P 500 closed down 2.5 per cent at 1,477.65, after being up 0.4 per cent before the decision was released. The yield on the two-year Treasury note was at 2.92 per cent, down from 3.14 per cent.

The sell-off spread to Asia and Europe on Wednesday. Shares in Hong Kong led the retreat, with the Hang Seng index falling 705.78 points or 2.4 per cent to 28,521.06, while the Nikkei 225 slumped 112.46 points or 0.7 per cent to 15,932.26.

In Europe, banks and companies with heavy US exposure led fallers. The FTSE 100 was down 61.6 points or nearly 1 per cent, while the Dax 30 shed 48.51 points or 0.6 per cent to 7,960.91. The CAC 40 in Paris fell 64.96 or 1.1 per cent to 5,659.80.

The Fed said the deterioration in financial market conditions had “increased the uncertainty surrounding the outlook for economic growth and inflation”.

But while it dropped its assessment that the risks to growth and inflation are “roughly balanced”, the Fed did not say that it now thinks the risks to growth outweigh the risks to inflation.

It offered no assessment of the balance of risks, saying it would act “as needed” to foster price stability and sustainable economic growth. This formula in effect means the Fed is keeping its options open.

Investors could infer a willingness to consider future rate cuts, but the signal was weaker than many had expected. This reflects the fact that the Fed remains more concerned about the risks to inflation than most investors.

The Fed said “incoming information suggests that economic growth is slowing” reflecting an “intensification of the housing correction” and “some softening in business and consumer spending.” It acknowledged that “strains in financial markets have increased in recent weeks”.

However, the US central bank made almost no changes at all to its language on inflation, reiterating that “energy and commodity prices, among other factors, may put upward pressure on inflation”.

Eric Rosengren, a committee member and president of the Boston Fed, dissented in favour of a 50bp cut. At the last meeting, Tom Hoenig, president of the Kansas City Fed, dissented in favour of no cut.

Money market traders had earlier priced in a decline in Libor when it sets on Wednesday. Later, those expectations reversed and one-month Libor is seen at 5.21 per cent on Wednesday, up from an estimate of 4.96 per cent and above Tuesday’s setting of 5.20 per cent.


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