Economists: Future deficits top US fiscal problem

Can’t seem to find their long term inflation problem that has to be behind this conclusion?

The Fed’s long term inflation forecast is 2%, so no long term deficit problem implied there…

Economists: Future Deficits Top US Fiscal Problem

August 26 (AP) — The biggest fiscal challenge facing the U.S. is the size of projected deficits in the 2020s and 2030s, according to a survey of business economists.

The National Association for Business Economics surveyed 220 of its members in July and August. The survey found that members were more concerned about the size of deficits in the next two decades than current deficits or deficits over the next 10 years: 43 percent of the economists named budget gaps in the 2020s and 2030s as the top fiscal challenge, compared with 37 percent who chose projected deficits over the next 10 years.

The policy survey found that no consensus on the best way to address those deficits.

From SCE

Taken from ‘Soft Currency Economics’, 1993

That was 20 years ago and the same error persists!!!

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How the Government Spends and Borrows as Much as it Does Without Causing Hyperinflation

Most people are accustomed to viewing savings from their own individual point of view. It can be difficult to think of savings on the national level. Putting
part of one’s salary into a savings account means only that an individual has not spent all of his income. The effect of not spending as such is to reduce the demand for consumption below what would have been if the income which is saved had been spent. The act of saving will reduce effective demand for current production without necessarily bringing about any compensating increase in the demand for investment. In fact, a decrease in effective demand most likely reduces employment and income. Attempts to increase individual savings may actually cause a decrease in national income, a reduction in investment, and a decrease in total national savings. One person’s savings can become another’s pay cut. Savings equals investment. If investment doesn’t change, one person’s savings will necessarily be matched by another’s’ dissaving’s. Every credit has an offsetting debit.

As one firm’s expenses are another person’s income, spending equal to a firm’s expenses is necessary to purchase its output. A shortfall of consumption results in an increase of unsold inventories. When business inventories accumulate because of poor sales: 1) businesses may lower their production and employment and 2) business may invest in less new capital. Businesses often invest in order to increase their productive capacity and meet greater demand for their goods. Chronically low demand for consumer goods and services may depress investment and leaves businesses with over capacity and reduce investment expenditures. Low spending can put the economy in the doldrums: low sales, low income, low investment, and low savings. When demand is strong and sales are high businesses normally respond by increasing output. They may also invest in additional capital equipment. Investment in new capacity is automatically an increase in savings. Savings rises because workers are paid to produce capital goods they cannot buy and consume. The only other choice left is for individuals to “invest” in capital goods, either directly or through an intermediary. An increase in investment for whatever reason is an increase in savings; a decrease in individual spending, however, does not cause an increase in overall investment. Savings equals investment, but the act of investment must occur to have real savings.

The structural situation in the U. S. is one in which individuals are given powerful incentives not to spend. This has allowed the government, in a sense, to spend people’s money for them. The reason that government deficit spending has not resulted in more inflation is that it has offset a structurally reduced rate of private spending. A large portion of personal income consists of IRA contributions, Keoghs, life insurance reserves, pension fund income, and other money that compounds continuously and is not spent. Similarly, a significant portion of business income is also low velocity; it accumulates in corporate savings accounts of various types. Dollars earned by foreign central banks are also not likely to be spent.

The root of this paradox is the mistaken notion that savings is needed to provide money for investment. This is not true. In the banking system, loans, including those for business investments, create equal deposits, obviating the need for savings as a source of money. Investment creates its own money. Once we recognize that savings does not cause investment it follows that the solution to high unemployment and low capacity utilization is not necessarily to encourage more savings. In fact, taxed advantaged savings has probably caused the private sector to desire to be a NET saver. This condition requires the public sector to run a deficit, or face deflation.

U.S. durable goods have sent a shudder through the market- CNBC

Stocks up a tad on the news. So apparently improved odds of not tapering continues to outweigh a weaker economic outlook. Just as what seemed to be an improving economic outlook was out weighed by consequently higher odds of tapering.

Ironically, of course, QE is largely a placebo, merely shifting indifference levels to where the economy holds more $ in reserve accounts at the Fed and fewer $ in securities accounts at the Fed, a pretty much meaningless distinction, apart from the maybe $100 billion per year of interest income the Fed turns over treasury that would have been earned by the economy, etc.

But markets apparently remain in a now inapplicable ‘gold standard paradigm’ where $ in reserve accounts were convertible into gold, rising gold outflows, devaluation/default, etc. and thus fear some sort of undefinable imagined ‘negative consequences’ of QE. And this includes at least substantial segments of the Fed’s open market committee, not to mention pretty much everyone at Jackson Hole, which is pretty much everyone.

And in a ‘good is bad and bad is good’ out of paradigm world, the awakening can be most rude.

If growth is decelerating as I fear because deficits are too small, and stocks rally because they believe that’s all trumped by more QE, the analogy that comes to mind is a giant central Florida sink hole.

Meanwhile, the euro zone is double vulnerable. It’s also sitting on a growing, giant sink hole, where a softening in net exports to a softening US could be the catalyst for implosion.


US we have a problem, and its name is durable goods

By Bob Pisani

Aug 26 (CNBC) — U.S. durable goods have sent a shudder through the market, after July’s headline number checked in much weaker than expected, down a whopping 7.3 percent versus expectations of a 4 percent decline.

Even the much-parsed ex-transportation figure came in far below expectations with a 6.7 percent plunge. Excluding defense and air, the core number was down 3.3 percent, after four consecutive up months.

You can’t even blame it on seasonality or some statistical fluke. This was the most high profile data point this week, and the result greatly complicates the taper talk.

The pressure is really on the nonfarm payroll report for August, due next week. You really need a strong number for the Fed to even flirt with scaling back its bond purchases in September. Consensus for nonfarm payrolls is around 166,000, but that number needs to be really strong —arguably over 200,000.