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		<title>By: Unforgiven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unforgiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 06:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2.... as it tried to assist millions of US homeowners and
other borrowers who had contacted with US banks to pay interest based on LIBOR settings.

borrowers who had contacted

Should be:

borrowers who had contracted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2&#8230;. as it tried to assist millions of US homeowners and<br />
other borrowers who had contacted with US banks to pay interest based on LIBOR settings.</p>
<p>borrowers who had contacted</p>
<p>Should be:</p>
<p>borrowers who had contracted</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Mosler&#8217;s proposals for the 99% &#124; Mecpoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Mosler&#8217;s proposals for the 99% &#124; Mecpoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 5. See my proposals for narrow banking, the Fed, the Treasury and the FDIC on this website (http://www.moslereconomics.com/?p=8968) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 5. See my proposals for narrow banking, the Fed, the Treasury and the FDIC on this website (<a href="http://www.moslereconomics.com/?p=8968" rel="nofollow">http://www.moslereconomics.com/?p=8968</a>) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-11171&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Captain CraZ&lt;/a&gt;, 
I wonder how can we get the 50,000+ factories that left the US for China over the last 10 years to take advantage of China&#039;s devalued currency back or replacement factories? 

It is not easy to make a new product plus a factory to produce it and the existing products made in China by US companies are protected by patents and the trademarks that we all know and love.

The political and economic interests supporting the current arrangements will have to be given a good alternative to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-11171" rel="nofollow">@Captain CraZ</a>,<br />
I wonder how can we get the 50,000+ factories that left the US for China over the last 10 years to take advantage of China&#8217;s devalued currency back or replacement factories? </p>
<p>It is not easy to make a new product plus a factory to produce it and the existing products made in China by US companies are protected by patents and the trademarks that we all know and love.</p>
<p>The political and economic interests supporting the current arrangements will have to be given a good alternative to change.</p>
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		<title>By: The Center of the Universe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Comments on Chairman Bernanke&#8217;s testimony</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Center of the Universe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Comments on Chairman Bernanke&#8217;s testimony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Response to CT democrat debate   Dallas Tea Party Address   Proposals for the Banking System, Treasury, Fed and FDIC   Levy Presentation as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Center of the Universe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UBS Says Faces LIBOR Manipulation Probe</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Center of the Universe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UBS Says Faces LIBOR Manipulation Probe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Response to CT democrat debate   Dallas Tea Party Address   Proposals for the Banking System, Treasury, Fed and FDIC   Levy Presentation as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 17:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you stop Banks from raising their deposit rates when they start to fail and cannot borrow in the wholesale market? If the guarantee by the FDIC covers all borrowings then large depositors can move to the highest rate without risk and Banks can never have a liquidity crisis (which is why they typically fail).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you stop Banks from raising their deposit rates when they start to fail and cannot borrow in the wholesale market? If the guarantee by the FDIC covers all borrowings then large depositors can move to the highest rate without risk and Banks can never have a liquidity crisis (which is why they typically fail).</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Franko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Franko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beo,
I dont think the thread was directly about corporate governance but it &quot;veered off&quot; on that direction in the comments (It&#039;s been known to happen here!).  I recall I was criticizing Mutual Funds for doing nothing for their mgmt fees in the way of forcing better, more shareholder friendly managements..

But I think the comments were congruent with what you propose here ie there has to  be a way to get more return for the true owners of companies, the shareholders.  I like your idea that parallels the REITs with the 90% payouts, etc..

If the &#039;natural rate of interest is zero&#039; then I sometimes worry (as someone who would like to retire someday), how retirees are going to make a decent return for themselves if govt bonds start to permanently yield near zero (I think this is a good possibility from here)....what gives me hope is the non-financial corporate sector, many of these business do make good profits (like they are currently) and maybe low govt bond yields will activate investors/shareholders to force the corporations to pay higher dividends out of earnings to get them some better retirement income via these dividends.

But like you point out there is the double tax issue as dividends are payed out after taxes.  This is often imo used by mgmnts to retain earnings as they are quick to point out the tax disadvantage and genrally they get the industry to sell the idea that &quot;they know better what to do with the retained earnings than the sharholders&quot; would if we paid them a dividend (thats BS imo), this just gives them cover to retain earnings and pay out more to insiders, rob, dilute, etc..imo...

Resp,

PS I&#039;m ready to vote for the Zanon/Beowulf ticket in 2012, or maybe check that the Beowulf/Zanon ticket to get control of &quot;The Fuzz&quot;... (picked that term up watching &#039;Adam 12&#039; re-runs in the 70s ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beo,<br />
I dont think the thread was directly about corporate governance but it &#8220;veered off&#8221; on that direction in the comments (It&#8217;s been known to happen here!).  I recall I was criticizing Mutual Funds for doing nothing for their mgmt fees in the way of forcing better, more shareholder friendly managements..</p>
<p>But I think the comments were congruent with what you propose here ie there has to  be a way to get more return for the true owners of companies, the shareholders.  I like your idea that parallels the REITs with the 90% payouts, etc..</p>
<p>If the &#8216;natural rate of interest is zero&#8217; then I sometimes worry (as someone who would like to retire someday), how retirees are going to make a decent return for themselves if govt bonds start to permanently yield near zero (I think this is a good possibility from here)&#8230;.what gives me hope is the non-financial corporate sector, many of these business do make good profits (like they are currently) and maybe low govt bond yields will activate investors/shareholders to force the corporations to pay higher dividends out of earnings to get them some better retirement income via these dividends.</p>
<p>But like you point out there is the double tax issue as dividends are payed out after taxes.  This is often imo used by mgmnts to retain earnings as they are quick to point out the tax disadvantage and genrally they get the industry to sell the idea that &#8220;they know better what to do with the retained earnings than the sharholders&#8221; would if we paid them a dividend (thats BS imo), this just gives them cover to retain earnings and pay out more to insiders, rob, dilute, etc..imo&#8230;</p>
<p>Resp,</p>
<p>PS I&#8217;m ready to vote for the Zanon/Beowulf ticket in 2012, or maybe check that the Beowulf/Zanon ticket to get control of &#8220;The Fuzz&#8221;&#8230; (picked that term up watching &#8216;Adam 12&#8242; re-runs in the 70s ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beowulf, did you catch this one?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/08/william-black-theoclassical-law-and-economics-makes-the-law-an-ass.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;William Black: Theoclassical Law and Economics Makes the Law an Ass
&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beowulf, did you catch this one?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/08/william-black-theoclassical-law-and-economics-makes-the-law-an-ass.html" rel="nofollow">William Black: Theoclassical Law and Economics Makes the Law an Ass<br />
</a></p>
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		<title>By: beowulf</title>
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		<dc:creator>beowulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify, REITs and BDCs (messed up the acronym above) currently pay no corporate income taxes if they pay out 90% of revenue as dividends, but they do not have any salary caps under current law.  

If Congress did impose one on corporations (don&#039;t hold your breath), I suppose they could impose it on REITs and BDCs as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_estate_investment_trust

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_development_company</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify, REITs and BDCs (messed up the acronym above) currently pay no corporate income taxes if they pay out 90% of revenue as dividends, but they do not have any salary caps under current law.  </p>
<p>If Congress did impose one on corporations (don&#8217;t hold your breath), I suppose they could impose it on REITs and BDCs as well.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_estate_investment_trust" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_estate_investment_trust</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_development_company" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_development_company</a></p>
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		<title>By: beowulf</title>
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		<dc:creator>beowulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt, do you have a link to the corporate governance thread?  I did see that NJ Sen. Bob Menendez rolled a grenade into the CEOs&#039; tent with the executive pay provision he slipped into the bank reform bill.

&lt;i&gt;US companies face a “logistical nightmare” from a new rule forcing them to disclose the ratio between their chief executive’s pay package and that of the typical employee, lawyers have warned. &lt;/i&gt;
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/977211ac-b461-11df-8208-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=rss

Of course that&#039;s looking at the pay inequality angle. Presumably the &quot;typical employee&quot; would be making about the same however much the CEO pays himself; at that point he&#039;s really spending the shareholders&#039; money.  

Congress could tell corporations that from now on, they will be taxed like a REIT (or a SBC), there are no federal corporate taxes if at least 90% of earnings are paid out as dividends.  

But there&#039;s one catch:  No employee can be paid more than the President of the United States (current salary $400,000). Exceptional employees can be rewarded with what Brad Delong  termed, a &quot;Silicon Valley Compensation Scheme&quot;:

&lt;i&gt;Some of the engineers of Silicon Valley make fortunes: they are compensated with relatively low salaries and large restricted equity stakes... they do very well indeed--in the long run, in the five to ten years it takes to assess whether the business is in fact going to be a viable and profitable going concern.&lt;/i&gt;
http://seekingalpha.com/article/127102-silicon-valley-compensation-schemes-needed-for-aig-and-tarp

If that&#039;s too great a burden for a company (though I can&#039;t see why shareholders would mind), the board of directors can always keep paying whatever salaries they&#039;d like, and keep paying corporate income taxes. The board can look foward to explaining to shareholders why they chose to voluntarily pay corporate taxes with money that should be going out as dividends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt, do you have a link to the corporate governance thread?  I did see that NJ Sen. Bob Menendez rolled a grenade into the CEOs&#8217; tent with the executive pay provision he slipped into the bank reform bill.</p>
<p><i>US companies face a “logistical nightmare” from a new rule forcing them to disclose the ratio between their chief executive’s pay package and that of the typical employee, lawyers have warned. </i><br />
<a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/977211ac-b461-11df-8208-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=rss" rel="nofollow">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/977211ac-b461-11df-8208-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=rss</a></p>
<p>Of course that&#8217;s looking at the pay inequality angle. Presumably the &#8220;typical employee&#8221; would be making about the same however much the CEO pays himself; at that point he&#8217;s really spending the shareholders&#8217; money.  </p>
<p>Congress could tell corporations that from now on, they will be taxed like a REIT (or a SBC), there are no federal corporate taxes if at least 90% of earnings are paid out as dividends.  </p>
<p>But there&#8217;s one catch:  No employee can be paid more than the President of the United States (current salary $400,000). Exceptional employees can be rewarded with what Brad Delong  termed, a &#8220;Silicon Valley Compensation Scheme&#8221;:</p>
<p><i>Some of the engineers of Silicon Valley make fortunes: they are compensated with relatively low salaries and large restricted equity stakes&#8230; they do very well indeed&#8211;in the long run, in the five to ten years it takes to assess whether the business is in fact going to be a viable and profitable going concern.</i><br />
<a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/127102-silicon-valley-compensation-schemes-needed-for-aig-and-tarp" rel="nofollow">http://seekingalpha.com/article/127102-silicon-valley-compensation-schemes-needed-for-aig-and-tarp</a></p>
<p>If that&#8217;s too great a burden for a company (though I can&#8217;t see why shareholders would mind), the board of directors can always keep paying whatever salaries they&#8217;d like, and keep paying corporate income taxes. The board can look foward to explaining to shareholders why they chose to voluntarily pay corporate taxes with money that should be going out as dividends.</p>
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