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		<title>By: jorge R L</title>
		<link>http://moslereconomics.com/2009/02/10/fact-sheet-on-geithner-obama-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-3998</link>
		<dc:creator>jorge R L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is very interesting is hat the whole question of who finances who? is getting &quot;explained&quot; by actual world events!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is very interesting is hat the whole question of who finances who? is getting &#8220;explained&#8221; by actual world events!</p>
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		<title>By: warren mosler</title>
		<link>http://moslereconomics.com/2009/02/10/fact-sheet-on-geithner-obama-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-3987</link>
		<dc:creator>warren mosler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, while the potential is always there, I thought we&#039;d muddle through with 0-2% gdp growth.  In q2 08 gdp was over 2% due to the fiscal package but getting gradually weaker over time as it had been since mid 2006.  

Then it all went bad in July with the great mike masters inventory liquidation that brought down the energy half of the s and p and started the route in the stock market that accelerated what had been a gradual drop in demand as consumers and businesses crawled into their foxholes.  

It&#039;s easy to fix- payroll tax holiday and $300 billion to the states on a per capita basis and it&#039;s as if it never happened.

But no one with any authority gets it, so it&#039;s gotten a whole lot worse than it had to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, while the potential is always there, I thought we&#8217;d muddle through with 0-2% gdp growth.  In q2 08 gdp was over 2% due to the fiscal package but getting gradually weaker over time as it had been since mid 2006.  </p>
<p>Then it all went bad in July with the great mike masters inventory liquidation that brought down the energy half of the s and p and started the route in the stock market that accelerated what had been a gradual drop in demand as consumers and businesses crawled into their foxholes.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to fix- payroll tax holiday and $300 billion to the states on a per capita basis and it&#8217;s as if it never happened.</p>
<p>But no one with any authority gets it, so it&#8217;s gotten a whole lot worse than it had to.</p>
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		<title>By: RichW</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t make sense of what Yu is saying. Diversify into what? Euros? Isn&#039;t China dumping it&#039;s dollar assets cutting off it&#039;s nose to spite it&#039;s face? Confused...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t make sense of what Yu is saying. Diversify into what? Euros? Isn&#8217;t China dumping it&#8217;s dollar assets cutting off it&#8217;s nose to spite it&#8217;s face? Confused&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Begotka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Begotka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerald Celente, this guy makes allot of good points Scary!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nJ7LM3iyNg



Warren I was not following your views before the crash, did you believe it would be this bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerald Celente, this guy makes allot of good points Scary!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nJ7LM3iyNg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nJ7LM3iyNg</a></p>
<p>Warren I was not following your views before the crash, did you believe it would be this bad?</p>
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		<title>By: warren.mosler</title>
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		<dc:creator>warren.mosler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes

:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes</p>
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		<title>By: warren.mosler</title>
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		<dc:creator>warren.mosler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and the sad but true list gets ever longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the sad but true list gets ever longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Norman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best &quot;guarantee&quot; would be renewed and robust U.S. demand. Yu should be lobbying Congress for a bigger U.S. fiscal stimulus in that case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best &#8220;guarantee&#8221; would be renewed and robust U.S. demand. Yu should be lobbying Congress for a bigger U.S. fiscal stimulus in that case.</p>
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		<title>By: chinese merde</title>
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		<dc:creator>chinese merde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China Needs U.S. Guarantees for Treasury Bond Holdings, Yu Says 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=a_dsDz145J_A&amp;refer=home

(who here said the fed was in control?)

By Belinda Cao and Judy Chen

Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- China should seek guarantees that its $682 billion holdings of U.S. government debt wonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t be eroded by ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œreckless policies,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â said Yu Yongding, a former adviser to the central bank. 

The U.S. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œshould make the Chinese feel confident that the value of the assets at least will not be eroded in a significant way,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â Yu, who now heads the World Economics and Politics Institute at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said in response to e-mailed questions yesterday from Beijing. He declined to elaborate on the assurances needed by China, the biggest foreign holder of U.S. government debt. 

China may voice its concerns over U.S. government finances and the potential for a weaker dollar when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton visits China on Feb. 20, according to He Zhicheng, an economist at Agricultural Bank of China, the nationÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s third-largest lender by assets. 

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œIn talks with Clinton, China will ask for a guarantee that the U.S. will support the dollarÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s exchange rate and make sure ChinaÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s dollar-denominated assets are safe,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â said He in Beijing. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œThat would be one of the prerequisites for more purchases.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â 

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œThe government will be a net buyer of Treasuries in the short-term because thereÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s no sign they have changed their strategy,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â said Zhang Ming, secretary general of international finance research center at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œBut personally, I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t think we should increase holdings because the medium- and long-term risks are quite high.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â 

A decline in reserves ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œisnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t likely because of ChinaÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s huge twin surpluses,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â Yu said. China ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œshould diversify its reserves away from U.S. Treasuries if the value of ChinaÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s foreign- exchange reserves is in danger of being inflated away by the U.S. governmentÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s pump-priming,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â he said. 

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œChina can also use this opportunity to get a promise from the U.S. not to make inappropriate requests on bilateral trade and the Chinese yuan,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â Lu said. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œWe canÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t afford more yuan appreciation as the economy is facing a serious slowdown.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China Needs U.S. Guarantees for Treasury Bond Holdings, Yu Says </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=a_dsDz145J_A&#038;refer=home" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=a_dsDz145J_A&#038;refer=home</a></p>
<p>(who here said the fed was in control?)</p>
<p>By Belinda Cao and Judy Chen</p>
<p>Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) &#8212; China should seek guarantees that its $682 billion holdings of U.S. government debt wonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t be eroded by ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œreckless policies,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â said Yu Yongding, a former adviser to the central bank. </p>
<p>The U.S. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œshould make the Chinese feel confident that the value of the assets at least will not be eroded in a significant way,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â Yu, who now heads the World Economics and Politics Institute at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said in response to e-mailed questions yesterday from Beijing. He declined to elaborate on the assurances needed by China, the biggest foreign holder of U.S. government debt. </p>
<p>China may voice its concerns over U.S. government finances and the potential for a weaker dollar when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton visits China on Feb. 20, according to He Zhicheng, an economist at Agricultural Bank of China, the nationÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s third-largest lender by assets. </p>
<p>ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œIn talks with Clinton, China will ask for a guarantee that the U.S. will support the dollarÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s exchange rate and make sure ChinaÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s dollar-denominated assets are safe,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â said He in Beijing. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œThat would be one of the prerequisites for more purchases.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â </p>
<p>ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œThe government will be a net buyer of Treasuries in the short-term because thereÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s no sign they have changed their strategy,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â said Zhang Ming, secretary general of international finance research center at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œBut personally, I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t think we should increase holdings because the medium- and long-term risks are quite high.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â </p>
<p>A decline in reserves ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œisnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t likely because of ChinaÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s huge twin surpluses,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â Yu said. China ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œshould diversify its reserves away from U.S. Treasuries if the value of ChinaÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s foreign- exchange reserves is in danger of being inflated away by the U.S. governmentÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s pump-priming,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â he said. </p>
<p>ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œChina can also use this opportunity to get a promise from the U.S. not to make inappropriate requests on bilateral trade and the Chinese yuan,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â Lu said. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œWe canÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t afford more yuan appreciation as the economy is facing a serious slowdown.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Fullwiler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Fullwiler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re competitive in Europe, too.  Heard that section on your show podcast today by coincidence.  Good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re competitive in Europe, too.  Heard that section on your show podcast today by coincidence.  Good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Norman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Audacity for sure! Entice hedge funds with the promise of huge and guaranteed profits--after they cratered our financial system--to bail out a banking system, which is a quasi branch of the Federal Gov&#039;t. Stevie Cohen&#039;s laughing all the way to the bank!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Audacity for sure! Entice hedge funds with the promise of huge and guaranteed profits&#8211;after they cratered our financial system&#8211;to bail out a banking system, which is a quasi branch of the Federal Gov&#8217;t. Stevie Cohen&#8217;s laughing all the way to the bank!</p>
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