Re: US May Lose Its ‘AAA’ Rating


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>   On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Morris wrote:
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>   The Muni stuff is more interesting… See the data…if the USA loses AAA.,
>   what does that make states with Budget Gaps of over 10pct of GDP and
>   NO capability for a funding mechanism to print money????
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Dependent on the US government/banks for credit, like the rest of us- (we may now need both a payroll tax holiday and a trillion or so of revenue sharing for the states).

And restoring growth and employment is no big deal, actually, if government sustains demand at reasonable levels, which it always, readily, can do.

We sent men to the moon 40 years ago, cram mind boggling technology into cell phones, do robotic surgery, and don’t understand how a simple spreadsheet called the monetary system works.

Remarkable!

US May Lose Its ‘AAA’ Rating

The United States may be on course to lose its ‘AAA’ rating due to the large amount of debt it has accumulated, according to Martin Hennecke, senior manager of private clients at Tyche.

Yes, that may happen, as ratings agencies have no clue how it all actually works.

“The U.S. might really have to look at a default on the bankruptcy reorganization of the present financial system” and the bankruptcy of the government is not out of the realm of possibility, Hennecke said.

With government spending not constrained by revenue, any such event would be an unnecessary political response.

“In the United States there is already a funding crisis,

Not for government.

And a close look at actual monetary operations shows government best thought of as spending first and then borrowing or collecting taxes. Any constraints are necessarily self imposed (debt ceilings, no overdraft at Fed provisions, paygo policy).

and they will have to sell a lot more bonds next year to fund the bailout packages that have already been signed off,” Hennecke told CNBC.

No, the Fed government sells bonds after they spend, not in order to spend.

In order to solve or stem the economic slowdown, Hennecke suggested the US would have to radically reduce spending across all sectors and recall all its troops from around the world.

No, to stem the slowdown the US has to increase its deficit- increase spending and/or cut taxes.

Fortunately, this is already underway via the ‘automatic stabilizers’ as tax revenue slows and transfer payments increase.

Unfortunately we still don’t have the good sense to do this proactively.

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>   On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Morris wrote:
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>   Your theories are quite interesting- why wouldn’t the G20 announce
>   this sort of massive WW stimulus package of say, 10 trillion dollars to
>   restart all local economies?
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They might.

Two points:

1. Deficits need to be ongoing to sustain the financial equity that supports credit structures. It’s not just a matter of ‘jump starting’ though that certainly doesn’t hurt.
We got into this mess by letting deficits get too low. We have yet to recover from the surplus years of the late 90’s that reduced private sector financial equity by maybe a trillion USD, back when that was a lot of money.

2. Any nation is better off by doing it unilaterally in sufficient quantity to restore output and employment. The last thing anyone needs is foreign consumers competing for scarce resources.


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Knowledge@Wharton- not


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Wonderful, and the others aren’t much better. All seem to agree that in the long run deficits are counterproductive:

Dear President-elect Obama: Here’s How to Get the Economy out of the Ditch

Wharton management professor Heather Berry notes that in his campaign, Obama “offered tax cuts for working class families, expanded health care coverage and investing in clean energy technologies as priorities. However, he inherits a deficit that will make multiple priorities difficult to achieve…. Obama will need to figure out not only which programs and legislative initiatives are most important, but also how to pay for these programs. One issue that Obama will have to face in his first year is middle class tax cuts given that the Bush tax cuts were temporary and will need to be extended in 2009.”


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Re: Unilateral Fiscal Policy is more Beneficial than a Coordinated Response


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Dear Philip,

Yes, there is a general shortage of aggregate demand.

However, if any one nation uses a fiscal adjustment to restore demand it will be that much better off if the rest of the world does not increase its aggregate demand.

Fiscal adjustments, much like imports, provide benefits and not costs.

Any unilateral fiscal response will restore both domestic output and employment as well as increase imports from nations who continue to suffer from a lack of aggregate demand.

The idea that there is a need for international coordination is continued evidence of a lack of understanding of the world’s monetary systems.

All the best,

Warren

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>   On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Prof. P. wrote:
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>   Dear Warren,
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>   Many thanks.
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>   What you suggest is very true. But not just in the US. Here in the UK
>   and practically everywhere else in the world this is very urgent and a bit
>   overdue. Do you not agree? Would anything along these lines come out
>   from the meeting of the G20 over the weekend, I wonder.
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>   Best wishes, Philip
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Re: Fed comment on currency swaps


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Yes, thanks, seems he doesn’t fully grasp what the swaps are about?

Seems none of them do.

With oil going down the US will spend less on imports making USD harder to get overseas, keeping the USD relatively strong and exacerbating the foreign sector USD squeeze.

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>   On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:44 PM, J A wrote:
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>   In his speech, Mr. Kohn said some special lending facilities, such as a
>   program for the commercial-paper market, “are clearly emergency
>   operations only” and would be wound down. Some of the Fed’s
>   temporary lending programs such as currency swaps with other central
>   banks and auctions for credit at the Fed’s discount window might
>   become permanent, he said.
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Paulson text


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“During the two weeks that Congress considered the legislation, market conditions worsened considerably. It was clear to me by the time the bill was signed on October 3rd that we needed to act quickly and forcefully, and that purchasing troubled assets—our initial focus—would take time to implement and would not be sufficient given the severity of the problem. In consultation with the Federal Reserve, I determined that the most timely, effective step to improve credit market conditions was to strengthen bank balance sheets quickly through direct purchases of equity in banks.”

He knew this before the bill was signed and didn’t mention it?


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2008-11-13 USER


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MBA Mortgage Applications (Nov 7)

Survey n/a
Actual 11.9%
Prior -20.3%
Revised n/a

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MBA Purchasing Applications (Nov 7)

Survey n/a
Actual 260.90
Prior 303.10
Revised n/a

 
Up some, but still very low.

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MBA Refinancing Applications (Nov 7)

Survey n/a
Actual 1075.40
Prior 1489.40
Revised n/a

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MBA TABLE 1 (Nov 7)

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MBA TABLE 2 (Nov 7)

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MBA TABLE 3 (Nov 7)

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MBA TABLE 4 (Nov 7)

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Trade Balance (Sep)

Survey -$57.0B
Actual -$56.5B
Prior -$59.1B
Revised n/a

 
Slowly falling as crude prices came down.

Karim writes:

  • Trade deficit improves from -59.1bn to -56.5 bn,
  • BUT, real trade balance actually worsened by about 3bn due to underlying price moves (so negative impact on real GDP)
  • Also, exports down 6% m/m and imports down 5.6% m/m

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Exports MoM (Sep 8)

Survey n/a
Actual -6.0%
Prior -1.7%
Revised n/a

 
Exports and imports (below) down as world economy slows.

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Imports MoM (Sep 8)

Survey n/a
Actual -5.6%
Prior -2.2%
Revised n/a

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Exports YoY (Sep 8)

Survey n/a
Actual 8.8%
Prior 16.3%
Revised n/a

 
Exports and imports (below) still up year over year but probably not for long.

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Imports YoY (Sep 8)

Survey n/a
Actual 6.9%
Prior 13.6%
Revised n/a

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Trade Balance ALLX (Sep)

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Initial Jobless Claims (Nov 8)

Survey 480K
Actual 516K
Prior 481K
Revised 484K

 
In to recession territory as expected.

Karim writes:

These are truly awful numbers

  • Initial claims rise from 484k (revised up from 480k) to new cycle high of 516k
  • Continuing claims rise from 3832k (revised down from 3843k) to new cycle high of 3897k
  • These reflect step-up in layoffs and continued lack of hiring

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Continuing Claims (Nov 1)

Survey 3825K
Actual 3897K
Prior 3843K
Revised 3832K

 
Moving into recession levels as expected.

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Jobless Claims ALLX (Nov 8)


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